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Old 04-17-2018, 08:57 AM   #1
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So why would the US want to position itself in the midst of the Lord's final battle? Since Israel is rescued by the Lord's glorious appearing how is that instructive to the US to intervene? Likewise, how is the fact that the Lord is going to establish his reign for 1,000 years instructive to US foreign policy?

Again I don't see how any of this has anything to do with US foreign policy. Are you saying that since will be established at that time that we should not be peace makers in this age?

The civil war in Syria is because the nations around Israel want to extinguish her? Funny you should say that, some historians have said that the civil war in Syria is because Assad misread the earliest protests as an attempt by his enemies from foreign countries to topple him.

None of what you have shared is at all helpful to determining US policy.
ZNP, some of your historical perspective has become unhinged.

Over 150 million people in the last century died at the hands of their own government. The USA has been used as a force of good since WWI. Think about how we could be today without the efforts of the US?

The US stopped Germany twice, limited communism in Moscow and Beijing, stopped many tyrants, helped to spread democracy, propped up the UN, minimized famines, droughts, and calamities, and lastly has supported Israel. Without the USA, the Lord would have no nation of Israel to return to.
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ZNP, some of your historical perspective has become unhinged.

Over 150 million people in the last century died at the hands of their own government. The USA has been used as a force of good since WWI. Think about how we could be today without the efforts of the US?

The US stopped Germany twice, limited communism in Moscow and Beijing, stopped many tyrants, helped to spread democracy, propped up the UN, minimized famines, droughts, and calamities, and lastly has supported Israel. Without the USA, the Lord would have no nation of Israel to return to.
I am not giving my perspective, I am asking for the prophecies that tell the US to gas Syria, or fight in Iraq.
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I am not giving my perspective, I am asking for the prophecies that tell the US to gas Syria, or fight in Iraq.
Sorry, I mistook you for someone else.
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Sorry, I mistook you for someone else.
What is really unhinged is when people go on and on about how "It is in the Bible" when they have actually no clue about what is or is not in the Bible.

Yes, Jesus will return to Israel, that is where Armageddon will be, and He will establish His kingdom for 1,000 years.

But what does any of that have to do with US foreign policy?
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:59 AM   #5
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This whole Hannity thing has me completely confused. First, Hannity says he didn't retain Cohen as a lawyer. That would tell me there is no Client lawyer privilege. However, he asked the court to keep his name secret. Why? On what basis, he has no confidentiality agreement since there is no client lawyer relationship?

Also, Cohen only has 3 clients: President of the US, Head of Republican Party, and Hannity. That doesn't make sense that a fair and impartial journalist would be so closely (and secretly) connected with the two most influential Republicans. Can anyone explain this?

One more thing, according to Hannity he only asked Cohen some innocent questions about real estate. Why the request to keep that secret?

Finally, I know that Hannity would never intentionally deceive us or let his own little issues color his commentary, so why allow all of those liberals out there a chance to vilify him over perceived conflict of interest?
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What is really unhinged is when people go on and on about how "It is in the Bible" when they have actually no clue about what is or is not in the Bible.

Yes, Jesus will return to Israel, that is where Armageddon will be, and He will establish His kingdom for 1,000 years.

But what does any of that have to do with US foreign policy?
Did you ever consider that God may use nations on earth to help accomplish His plan?

If you say no, that God can do anything He wants with or without human help, then I would ask why the record of the Old Testament?

Perhaps God has used US foreign policy to assist His plans concerning Israel and to limit the expansion of evil in the world?

And, btw, to justify climate change in the Bible by using "sow what you reap" principles, is quite a stretch.
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Israeli intelligence reportedly says Trump's Syria strike failed, didn't take out much of anything
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Israeli intelligence reportedly says Trump's Syria strike failed, didn't take out much of anything
Pictures prove otherwise.
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Did you ever consider that God may use nations on earth to help accomplish His plan?

If you say no, that God can do anything He wants with or without human help, then I would ask why the record of the Old Testament?

Perhaps God has used US foreign policy to assist His plans concerning Israel and to limit the expansion of evil in the world?

And, btw, to justify climate change in the Bible by using "sow what you reap" principles, is quite a stretch.
Yes I have considered it. I have also considered that I am tired of people telling me what the Bible says who are unable to provide the verse reference. Stop playing God and give me the Bible verses that you are referring to.
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Yes I have considered it. I have also considered that I am tired of people telling me what the Bible says who are unable to provide the verse reference. Stop playing God and give me the Bible verses that you are referring to.
I'm tired of all the Hitler references too.

Still haven't found him in the Bible.

Tired of people misquoting scripture too.

And tell that guy to quit "playing God."
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