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Old 01-14-2010, 07:27 PM   #1
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Default Re: Art Katz on True Fellowship

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I have not listened to the messages, but only observed your comments.
OBW, if you don't have time to listen but prefer to read - check out Art's many documents, free for download at ArtKatzMinistries.org

Below is another quicker way to access the print version of "True Fellowship":
''True Fellowship'' (Is Our Practice of Fellowship Genuine?) Part A Part B Print Version Larger Font

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So if the idea with the prophets is that they should not only seek no honor, but should expect to be despised, then what is the parallel that makes ministers despised by those to whom they minister? He probably did not intend to take it that far. But on what basis did he take it as far as he did?
I think Art took it that far based upon the fact that the faithful slaves of Christ are told to expect the same amount, if not more so, the rejection and lack of honor from men...

Mat 10:25 It is sufficient for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the Master of the house 1aBeelzebul, how much more those of His household!

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Old 01-14-2010, 08:48 PM   #2
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I think Art took it that far based upon the fact that the faithful slaves of Christ are told to expect the same amount, if not more so, the rejection and lack of honor from men...
With respect to rejection from the outside, I would agree. But such rejection is not presumed from the inside.

But there is no reason to expect that God-fearing people who are getting excellent ministry should not let those ministers hear about it. Surely the ministers should not do it for the purpose of accolades, but there is nothing that suggests they should go out of their way to avoid any.
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