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Old 05-31-2018, 08:30 PM   #1
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This letter had gone out to elders in 2006 after many other much more-detailed attempts at communication had been made.


January 2006

To elders and saints:

EXCERPT

"My ordeal over the reaction of elders to my written materials began in January 2001 with Dan Towle; it is now reaching the five-year mark January 28, 2006. There should be a consummation at this time. The ordeal with Joel Kennon is reaching the ten-year mark January 23, 2006. What shall I do with the matters I have fully tried to convey and bring into fellowship? I will look to the Lord for the answer, and I also hope for brothers, fellow members of the Body, to respond in a spirit of fellowship to this current fellowship that I offer." (2006)

http://lordsrecovery.us/MyTestimonytoEldersJan06.pdf
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:25 PM   #2
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Instead of responding favorably to Indiana, and reconciling to him, those at LSM decided to go ahead and quarantine Titus Chu.
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Old 06-01-2018, 05:03 AM   #3
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I think if this had simply been a misunderstanding the situation would have been resolved long ago. Your approach to put your testimony in writing and share it with the 6 elders is the appropriate path to take. Their response demonstrates clearly to me that this is in fact not the case. You are missing the key reason that they have not responded in a way of reconciliation. Since they are unwilling to fellowship or share that reason with you I conclude that it is shameful.

This also demonstrates the ugly side of the expression "pay the price for the recovery". I think their response indicates that cutting off dear, genuine brothers in a way that is clearly contrary to the Lord is part of the "price" they are willing to pay.

Your letter focuses on digging deep to understand the issues, mistakes and even sins that need to be dealt with in order to go on. Their response is that "you don't belong in the Recovery". I understand that to mean that "light and truth don't belong".

I agree that you are in the light, seeking the truth and seeking reconciliation, and following the Lord in the way you seek this. However, they make a number of accusations: that you want the recovery to conform to your thoughts and concept, you don’t agree with what the Recovery stands for, it is impossible to change an entire group, you have a history of damage, not right with the Body, your thought is wrong, you have no light in this matter, without light you’ll never be able to come back, and you are completely in the dark. All of these together confirm the Paul's word that there is no fellowship between light and dark.

That said I do agree with one of their claims: "it doesn't make sense that you would want to come back to a place that is so wrong". I hope that you are using this forum to "tell it to the church" so that you can now move on.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:23 PM   #4
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The Relationship among the Co-workers


Daystar did not match the church in life an nature or the vision of the apostles or New and Lee. It was the devastating first step of mixing the world with the church that led to its decline and loss of heavenly character.

In the beginning,

There was neither financial control nor central control. Paul received the supply from the Lord for his own living, and his co-workers received the supply from the Lord for their own living. They took care of one another in love. Since there was no organization among them, everything was so clear, free, and simple.[/COLOR]" (The Life and Way to Practice the Church Life, chapter 12, 1963, Witness Lee)

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Old 06-14-2018, 01:43 AM   #5
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Steve, I think you should start with the beginning.

Please tell all about your book, "In the Wake of the New Way", which is really why your were shunned and banned. They still have not forgiven you for exposing a terrible trend they had allowed to grow.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:06 AM   #6
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One thing I appreciate about Steve's writing is it insistently places the focus on real human beings and the consequences of our behaviours on our relations with others. Instead of getting lost in disembodied abstractions like "the ground" or "the ministry" or "the church", he keeps coming back to what actual people have done and continue to do. I think it's important to keep that focus as he has. Nothing wrong with abstractions per se, but they must be continually rooted in a commonly agreed-upon physical reality of people, places, actions.
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One thing I appreciate about Steve's writing is it insistently places the focus on real human beings and the consequences of our behaviours on our relations with others. Instead of getting lost in disembodied abstractions like "the ground" or "the ministry" or "the church", he keeps coming back to what actual people have done and continue to do. I think it's important to keep that focus as he has. Nothing wrong with abstractions per se, but they must be continually rooted in a commonly agreed-upon physical reality of people, places, actions.

http://lordsrecovery.us/neefurthertalksground.pdf
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:43 PM   #8
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Steve, I think you should start with the beginning.

Please tell all about your book, "In the Wake of the New Way", which is really why your were shunned and banned. They still have not forgiven you for exposing a terrible trend they had allowed to grow.
You are right about that, and the path of deviation was followed instead.

I went from that first writing to doing websites, when I felt it would help. This one in the link was from around 2007 with several voices calling out to the leaders and giving testimony.

www.makingstraightthewayofthelord.com

Come back, come back, brothers, to the vision!
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