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[zeek]

Stephen Miller reportedly crafted Trump's cruel policy of separating migrant children from their parents at the border. http://www.businessinsider.com/who-i...nt=bufferfbd23

Even House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., who is an immigration hard-liner, told NPR's Mary Louise Kelly in an interview Monday for All Things Considered that he backs the changes to the administration's policy in the compromise bill. "We're hard at work on language right now to take care of this problem so that children can remain with their parents," Goodlatte said.

[ZNPaaneah]

“If Europe thinks they have a problem with migration today … wait 20 years,” said retired US military corps brigadier general Stephen Cheney. “See what happens when climate change drives people out of Africa – the Sahel [sub-Saharan area] especially – and we’re talking now not just one or two million, but 10 or 20 [million]. They are not going to south Africa, they are going across the Mediterranean.” (https://www.theguardian.com/environm...refugee-crisis)

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

“If Europe thinks they have a problem with migration today … wait 20 years,” said retired US military corps brigadier general Stephen Cheney. “See what happens when climate change drives people out of Africa – the Sahel [sub-Saharan area] especially – and we’re talking now not just one or two million, but 10 or 20 [million]. They are not going to south Africa, they are going across the Mediterranean.” (https://www.theguardian.com/environm...refugee-crisis)

1,000 years ago they tried the same thing and we had the crusades.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Stephen Miller reportedly crafted Trump's cruel policy of separating migrant children from their parents at the border.

Thank God Trump has the guts to separate these children from the human traffickers and give them loving care, protection, and shelter.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Thank God Trump has the guts to separate these children from the human traffickers and give them loving care, protection, and shelter.

The burden of proof is on the Trump Administration to show that is the case. If it were so they would have said so in the beginning. Instead they said that separating the children from their parents was deterrent. It looks like you believed another lie.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

The burden of proof is on the Trump Administration to show that is the case. If it were so they would have said so in the beginning. Instead they said that separating the children from their parents was deterrent. It looks like you believed another lie.

If the entire mainstream media is promoting the same narrative, it is by definition a deceptive lie.

I told you that the original picture, which ignited the controversy, was from 2014 under the Obama admin. Obviously you don't care. The media acts like these policies just begun, but have been going on for years. Notice the timing -- the Democrats had to distract our attention from the Kim Summit and the IG Report.

Amazingly, even Laura Bush chimed in, that is, until Sarah Sanders WH SpokesPerson reminded her that Dubya signed this legislation in 2008. Duh!

But why let a few facts get in the way. Like a vast percentage of minors are NOT accompanied by their parents. Even the leftist Democrats on the Hill smell blood and began screaming at Trump as if they have one ounce of compassion or a single fact on their side.

zeek, I thought you were a smart guy. I am amazed how easily you get distracted with the crowds. Like lemmings running over the cliff after every new shiny object. Wide is the way that leads to destruction. If the whole world hates Trump, you might want to reconsider why.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

If the entire mainstream media is promoting the same narrative, it is by definition a deceptive lie.

I told you that the original picture, which ignited the controversy, was from 2014 under the Obama admin. Obviously you don't care. The media acts like these policies just begun, but have been going on for years. Notice the timing -- the Democrats had to distract our attention from the Kim Summit and the IG Report.

Amazingly, even Laura Bush chimed in, that is, until Sarah Sanders WH SpokesPerson reminded her that Dubya signed this legislation in 2008. Duh!

But why let a few facts get in the way. Like a vast percentage of minors are NOT accompanied by their parents. Even the leftist Democrats on the Hill smell blood and began screaming at Trump as if they have one ounce of compassion or a single fact on their side.

zeek, I thought you were a smart guy. I am amazed how easily you get distracted with the crowds. Like lemmings running over the cliff after every new shiny object. Wide is the way that leads to destruction. If the whole world hates Trump, you might want to reconsider why.

The bottom line is that we need legislation concerning immigration. It has to take into account the concerns for keeping the US safe, protecting out citizens, while also accounting for the wonderful benefits we get from immigrants as a boost to our economy. Finally, the current situation is not acceptable, we are a humane country and we do not want to imitate Nazi Germany.

There is an easy solution -- refuge city. Let those coming and claiming asylum go to a "refuge city" on the border where they can live and work until their case is adjudicated.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The bottom line is that we need legislation concerning immigration. It has to take into account the concerns for keeping the US safe, protecting out citizens, while also accounting for the wonderful benefits we get from immigrants as a boost to our economy. Finally, the current situation is not acceptable, we are a humane country and we do not want to imitate Nazi Germany.

There is an easy solution -- refuge city. Let those coming and claiming asylum go to a "refuge city" on the border where they can live and work until their case is adjudicated.

There's not one thing happening on the border that could be connected to the Hitler Natzis. That whole manufactured narrative is a deceptive lie. And you guys know it! This whole drama is just one more charade in a long series going back to the Primaries in 2015.

Every country has right to protect its borders. Every incarcerated felon is separated from his or her children. Most of these children are NOT accompanied by parents. All of these illegal immigrants should have gone to Ports of Entry. The children in these centers are well cared for. They are far safer than inner city schools, esp. Chicago.

Name me one child that has been gassed and incinerated on the border like the Jews in the holocaust.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

There's not one thing happening on the border that could be connected to the Hitler Natzis. That whole manufactured narrative is a deceptive lie. And you guys know it! This whole drama is just one more charade in a long series going back to the Primaries in 2015.

Every country has right to protect its borders. Every incarcerated felon is separated from his or her children. Most of these children are NOT accompanied by parents. All of these illegal immigrants should have gone to Ports of Entry. The children in these centers are well cared for. They are far safer than inner city schools, esp. Chicago.

These are not incarcerated felons. These are people who are applying for asylum and a judge has not yet had a chance to hear their case. Yes, many are lying and will be refused, but there are those who are truly seeking asylum. We do not need to treat them as felons. Like I said, there should be a refuge city where they are allowed to enter but not leave until their case is heard. This would save us the money of housing, feeding, and caring for them. If you are truly seeking asylum this would be merciful, if you are trying to scam the system and jump the line then you would be fingerprinted, deported, and the next time you try this you would immediately pop up in the system.

Originally Posted by Ohio

Name me one child that has been gassed and incinerated on the border like the Jews in the holocaust.

Prior to gassing them, the "final" solution, they were segregated into Ghetto's (Jewish side of the city), forced to wear stars, etc. When we talk about Nazi Germany it doesn't simply refer to gas chambers, it refers to ghettos, demonizing one small segment of society, blaming the Jews for all the ills in the country, running on a campaign to deal with the Jews, and a whole new way of enforcing the law including summary executions on the street without a trial.

The Nazi's were never elected to power on a platform of "gas chambers" that was done more subtly. They were elected with the promise to "deal with the problem of the Jews" much like Trump has made immigration and illegal aliens the cornerstone of his campaign. In fact the "make America great again" was lifted straight from Nazi campaign rhetoric. Another cornerstone was the claim that the peace treaty from WWI was not just, similar to Trump's contention that our trade agreements are not just.

It was not illogical to vote for Hitler, many were concerned about communism from Russia and Hitler was successful at branding communism as a Jewish doctrine. The peace treaty was unjust and Germans were right to fight it.

However, today the overwhelming majority of Germans are ashamed of Hitler, not because of what he promised (they are not communist and they have much better treaties today) but because they trusted him to accomplish what he promised even though he was clearly incompetent and they were willing to turn a blind eye because they liked his speeches.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

The burden of proof is on the Trump Administration to show that is the case. If it were so they would have said so in the beginning. Instead they said that separating the children from their parents was deterrent. It looks like you believed another lie.

It is the corrupt media and the Democrats who have the burden of proof.

Did they not bring forth false accusations?

Are we now all guilty until we prove ourselves innocent?