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[ZNPaaneah]

Trump's new acting attorney general already has a plan to stop Mueller probe

Time for Mueller to play his cards.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Trump's new acting attorney general already has a plan to stop Mueller probe

Time for Mueller to play his cards.

More like a house of cards.

Actually, if I heard correctly, Muller still reports to Rosenstein, but Rosenstein now reports to Whitaker.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

More like a house of cards.

Actually, if I heard correctly, Muller still reports to Rosenstein, but Rosenstein now reports to Whitaker.

I think the Senate needs to confirm the appointment before any real action can be taken against Rosenstein. Likewise, Mueller still has his documentation authorizing his investigation and my understanding is that cannot be retracted without paper documentation that would then go public. Nor does Whitaker have the authority to put a stop to it until the Senate ratifies him. And, unfortunately for Trump, the recently elected Senators are not able to do that yet, so any outgoing Senators may not feel beholden to Trump. Therefore Trump has made it very clear to Mueller he has to play his cards now, perhaps he has a month or even two, but once the new Senate is in Whitaker gets confirmed and the plug is pulled on the investigation. Once again, it is just like a blitz in football, by rushing the quarterback you try to force a mistake, but if the quarterback is good, or if he is ready for you, then you get burned.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I think the Senate needs to confirm the appointment before any real action can be taken against Rosenstein. Likewise, Mueller still has his documentation authorizing his investigation and my understanding is that cannot be retracted without paper documentation that would then go public. Nor does Whitaker have the authority to put a stop to it until the Senate ratifies him. And, unfortunately for Trump, the recently elected Senators are not able to do that yet, so any outgoing Senators may not feel beholden to Trump. Therefore Trump has made it very clear to Mueller he has to play his cards now, perhaps he has a month or even two, but once the new Senate is in Whitaker gets confirmed and the plug is pulled on the investigation. Once again, it is just like a blitz in football, by rushing the quarterback you try to force a mistake, but if the quarterback is good, or if he is ready for you, then you get burned.

Do you really think that Muller has been holding out with evidence of collusion or obstruction of justice, just waiting for an opportunity to tell the American people? And this secret info has never been leaked to the Press? Seriously?

Whitaker will not fire Muller, rather put some limits on him. Muller had an assignment to do, and a responsibility to complete it.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Do you really think that Muller has been holding out with evidence of collusion or obstruction of justice, just waiting for an opportunity to tell the American people? And this secret info has never been leaked to the Press? Seriously?

Whitaker will not fire Muller, rather put some limits on him. Muller had an assignment to do, and a responsibility to complete it.

At the moment, based on what has been revealed I would compare what is happening today with what happened with Andrew Johnson. That was a purely political impeachment. If the Democrats pull that it will be total grandstanding.

That said Mueller has indicted quite a few people and has flipped several who are in the know. Therefore if there is anything criminal I think he knows about it now and has enough evidence for a grand jury.

I am completely against having this investigation take 4 years and think he has had enough time to have uncovered something. If not, it is time to put an end to it. A year ago I thought people were unreasonable to think he would have completed it already, but in my opinion 2 years is enough time.

Collusion -- I think the odds are around 20%, which means 80% I think he is innocent of that.

Obstruction of justice -- I think he has gone as close to the line as he can, this is his MO, so I think it is 50/50 that they have something prosecutable on that front.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

At the moment, based on what has been revealed I would compare what is happening today with what happened with Andrew Johnson. That was a purely political impeachment. If the Democrats pull that it will be total grandstanding.

That said Mueller has indicted quite a few people and has flipped several who are in the know. Therefore if there is anything criminal I think he knows about it now and has enough evidence for a grand jury.

I am completely against having this investigation take 4 years and think he has had enough time to have uncovered something. If not, it is time to put an end to it. A year ago I thought people were unreasonable to think he would have completed it already, but in my opinion 2 years is enough time.

Collusion -- I think the odds are around 20%, which means 80% I think he is innocent of that.

Obstruction of justice -- I think he has gone as close to the line as he can, this is his MO, so I think it is 50/50 that they have something prosecutable on that front.

The media has basically given up on these two charges, and has put their hope in finding some rotten business transaction. They would have no problem going back 36 years, they have proven that. They would also take Junior's business history too. According to the prevailing "wisdom," they are rich conservatives, they must be crooks.

Have you noticed that both General Flynn and George Papadopoulos have flawed plea deals? In both cases the Muller team withheld exculpatory evidence. They have a history of doing this, and some of his team should have been disbarred decades ago. The "victims" here agreed to plea deals only after bully prosecutors threatened to go after family members also. This explains why they have not been sentenced, and hopefully never will.

Real justice eh? When you think of Muller and Weismann, think of Mobster Whitey Bulger, Enron, and Arthur Anderson.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

When you think of Muller and Weismann, think of Mobster Whitey Bulger, Enron, and Arthur Anderson.

I don't know Mueller or Trump. But from what I can see, and comparing their history, I'd put Mueller's character up against Trump's any day of the week.

Neither qualify for sainthood, but who's less likely to qualify?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Have you noticed that both General Flynn and George Papadopoulos have flawed plea deals?

I have noticed a lot of things:

1. Russia was hacking our election -- a crime

2. Russians met with the Trump team

3. Trump said "Russia if you are listening..."

They had the means, the motive, opportunity and a crime was committed. The reason I give them a 1 in 5 chance of indicting him is because this is a very difficult crime to convict someone of, and he can always have someone else take the fall.

I have also noticed

1. Trump likes dictators

2. Trump doesn't say a bad word about Putin even though he is very tough on virtually everyone else in the world.

3. It seems that his advisors have to do everything in their power to prevent him from obstructing justice in a blatant fashion.

4. Testimony of Comey

5. His transparent use of pardons.

6. The number of indictments of the people working for him.

That is why I give a much higher chance for obstruction, which is a much easier crime to convict someone for.