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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Individual 1-in-Chief :

New evidence from two separate fronts of special counsel Robert Mueller III's investigation casts fresh doubts on Trump's version of key events involving Russia, signaling potential political and legal peril for the president. Investigators have now publicly cast Trump as a central figure of their probe into whether Trump's campaign conspired with the Russian government during the 2016 campaign.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...f-13432906.php

You have been told this lie for two years, when will you begin to think for yourself?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

You have been told this lie for two years, when will you begin to think for yourself?

Thanks for your concern. Do you mean, stop reading the news, and start believing everything Trump says? Will I then be thinking for myself?

[ZNPaaneah]

I think Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson illustrate much of what we see.

Teddy Roosevelt was someone who promoted "manly" ventures like war, and had a big impact on building up the US navy. He wanted us to be an imperial power and was involved in our getting the Philippines as a US territory. Some complained of his heavy handed way in which he built the Panama Canal.

Woodrow Wilson, by contrast wanted to keep us out of WW1, he was the one who wanted the league of nations, he had a 14 point peace plan that was much less punitive than the Peace plan forced on Germany. Woodrow Wilson is very similar to many liberal elites, top education, pacifists, etc.

However, Teddy Roosevelt was far more effective as a peace maker than Woodrow Wilson and I think it can be argued that WWII can in large part be blamed on the peace treaty and that failure should certainly be credited to Woodrow Wilson. His failure was this: when he agreed to enter into the war as an ally to Britain and France he should have made a covenant with them about how the peace would be made. That was when he had maximum leverage because if we didn't enter they would very likely lose. But his lack of experience of fighting meant he didn't understand the whole process. He didn't realize that the minute the US entered the balance was changed so greatly that the outcome could easily be predicted. His whole reason for entering was a good peace treaty, that was his end game. But he didn't understand bullies and didn't understand the inclination of Britain and France to bully Germany, especially since they knew they couldn't have won without the US, since that wasn't a guarantee they needed to tip the balance in their favor. In contrast Teddy Roosevelt had been bullied as a kid, transformed himself, and went after bullies for the rest of his life. He fully understood the process, how it would play out, and how to get to the end game.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Thanks for your concern. Do you mean, stop reading the news, and start believing everything Trump says? Will I then be thinking for myself?

Hardly. Forget what Trump says. Read one of the many books being written by those who are not Trump haters. Here's one. Spygate by Bongino, former Secret Service Agent to Obama.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Hardly. Forget what Trump says. Read one of the many books being written by those who are not Trump haters. Here's one. Spygate by Bongino, former Secret Service Agent to Obama.

Thanks, but could have gotten that promotion from :

“An explosive account of the biggest scandal in American history, and the political players that tried to pull it off.”—Sean Hannity

And does the fact that he worked for Obama give him more credibility?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Thanks, but could have gotten that promotion from :

“An explosive account of the biggest scandal in American history, and the political players that tried to pull it off.”—Sean Hannity

And does the fact that he worked for Obama give him more credibility?

Perhaps the truth is too dangerous for you to handle.

[ZNPaaneah]

My personal experience of Bush --

My father cancelled a deal where UPI was going to buy a news agency in Florida. Bush was in charge of the CIA and called my dad into his office. He asked my dad to reconsider. He said he couldn't because the news agency was simply a front for the CIA and if he bought them then the Russians could claim his reporters were spies and arrest them. Bush didn't deny this, instead he said that it would be very good for my dad's career if he would just look the other way. My dad didn't and was forced to leave UPI. He went to the NY Times and shortly thereafter (a year or so) he left there. The blurb in the paper said he left due to a difference of opinion concerning policy. (Although my dad didn't elaborate I believe it was due to a special report they were writing on the JFK assassination which has since been shown to be nothing more than fake news from the CIA as part of a disinformation campaign).

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

My personal experience of Bush --

I lost a lot of respect for the Bush family, father and sons, after they publicly criticized the Trump presidency. They broke their long-standing policy which they adhered to during the Clinton and Obama years.

Right after Bush #41 spoke out, reports surfaced that he had this nasty habit of groping the girls from below.

Folks can say what they want about President Trump, but his unwavering defense of Israel, including the move of our embassy to Jerusalem, has caught the attention of Him on the throne.

We have heard much recently about the horrendous murder of Jamal Khashoggi. The media's incentive here has little to do with their love for him. Rather it is all about how Saudi Arabia and Trump are aligned with Israel against Iran. Don't forget that Obama's chief advisor was Valerie Jarrett, who was born in Iran to parents who were hardcore communists.