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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

My personal experience of Bush --

I lost a lot of respect for the Bush family, father and sons, after they publicly criticized the Trump presidency. They broke their long-standing policy which they adhered to during the Clinton and Obama years.

Right after Bush #41 spoke out, reports surfaced that he had this nasty habit of groping the girls from below.

Folks can say what they want about President Trump, but his unwavering defense of Israel, including the move of our embassy to Jerusalem, has caught the attention of Him on the throne.

We have heard much recently about the horrendous murder of Jamal Khashoggi. The media's incentive here has little to do with their love for him. Rather it is all about how Saudi Arabia and Trump are aligned with Israel against Iran. Don't forget that Obama's chief advisor was Valerie Jarrett, who was born in Iran to parents who were hardcore communists.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Don't forget that Obama's chief advisor was Valerie Jarrett, who was born in Iran to parents who were hardcore communists.

Like Melania ... 'cept from Slovenia.

The rest of your post, or a lot of it, is baloney.

[ZNPaaneah]

The undeniable bottom line is that the CIA has completely inserted themselves into our media. This appears to have several impacts:

1. Disinformation -- designed to confuse issues. For example billions of dollars were spent to prevent research on JFK assassination and other significant geopolitical events.

2. Ridiculous amounts of attention given to insignificant stories as a distraction (look at the three biggest stories since JFK -- OJ, Monica, and Jon Benet Ramsey).

3. Bitter ideological debates designed to divide and conquer the electorate.

4. Bury stories so they never see the light of day. (Buy the rights and then refuse to publish).

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

The rest of your post, or a lot of it, is baloney.

FBI Files Document Communism in Valerie Jarrett’s Family

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) files obtained by Judicial Watch reveal that the dad, maternal grandpa and father-in-law of President Obama’s trusted senior advisor, Valerie Jarrett, were hardcore Communists under investigation by the U.S. government.

Jarrett’s dad, pathologist and geneticist Dr. James Bowman, had extensive ties to Communist associations and individuals, his lengthy FBI file shows. In 1950 Bowman was in communication with a paid Soviet agent named Alfred Stern, who fled to Prague after getting charged with espionage. Bowman was also a member of a Communist-sympathizing group called the Association of Internes and Medical Students. After his discharge from the Army Medical Corps in 1955, Bowman moved to Iran to work, the FBI records show.

According to Bowman’s government file the Association of Internes and Medical Students is an organization that “has long been a faithful follower of the Communist Party line” and engages in un-American activities. Bowman was born in Washington D.C. and had deep ties to Chicago, where he often collaborated with fellow Communists. JW also obtained documents on Bowman from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) showing that the FBI was brought into investigate him for his membership in a group that “follows the communist party line.” The Jarrett family Communist ties also include a business partnership between Jarrett’s maternal grandpa, Robert Rochon Taylor, and Stern, the Soviet agent associated with her dad.

Jarrett’s father-in-law, Vernon Jarrett, was also another big-time Chicago Communist, according to separate FBI files obtained by JW as part of a probe into the Jarrett family’s Communist ties. For a period of time Vernon Jarrett appeared on the FBI’s Security Index and was considered a potential Communist saboteur who was to be arrested in the event of a conflict with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). His FBI file reveals that he was assigned to write propaganda for a Communist Party front group in Chicago that would “disseminate the Communist Party line among…the middle class.”

It’s been well documented that Valerie Jarrett, a Chicago lawyer and longtime Obama confidant, is a liberal extremist who wields tremendous power in the White House. Faithful to her roots, she still has connections to many Communist and extremist groups, including the Muslim Brotherhood. Jarrett and her family also had strong ties to Frank Marshal Davis, a big Obama mentor and Communist Party member with an extensive FBI file.

JW has exposed Valerie Jarrett’s many transgressions over the years, including her role in covering up a scandalous gun-running operation carried out by the Department of Justice (DOJ). Last fall JW obtained public records that show Jarrett was a key player in the effort to cover up that Attorney General Eric Holder lied to Congress about the Fast and Furious, a disastrous experiment in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives (ATF) allowed guns from the U.S. to be smuggled into Mexico so they could eventually be traced to drug cartels. Instead, federal law enforcement officers lost track of hundreds of weapons which have been used in an unknown number of crimes, including the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Arizona.

In 2008 JW got documents linking Valerie Jarrett, who also served as co-chairman of Obama’s presidential transition team, to a series of real estate scandals, including several housing projects operated by convicted felon and Obama fundraiser/friend Antoin “Tony” Rezko. According to the documents obtained from the Illinois Secretary of State, Valerie Jarrett served as a board member for several organizations that provided funding and support for Chicago slum projects operated by Rezko.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

FBI Files Document Communism in Valerie Jarrett’s Family

More whataboutism from shill for amoral mutant Trump.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

More whataboutism from shill for amoral mutant Trump.

So now you too are suspicious about the FBI? What an incredible turn of events!

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But it does fascinate me how you fine folks on the LEFT can justify the slaughter of the unborn, and yet call an upright man, like President Trump, "amoral" for opposing abortion with the appointment of Justice Kavanaugh.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

So now you too are suspicious about the FBI? What an incredible turn of events!

It's not the deep state that worries me, it's the surface state.

Originally Posted by Ohio

But it does fascinate me how you fine folks on the LEFT . . .

I'm glad I'm not one of those awful folks on the left. I'm a center extremist.

Originally Posted by Ohio

. . . can justify the slaughter of the unborn . . .

Not the unborn card again. Like I, or you, have anything to do with the unborn. Well I suppose it is possible that you've gone and knocked up some fertile young maiden. Then, if it's an unwanted child, you'd be the one that produced the need for an abortion. That would explain your inordinate obsession with the unborn.

It's funny how conservatives rile against abortion, until they produce a love child.

Originally Posted by Ohio

, and yet call an upright man, like President Trump . . .

Now you've gone and done it : Bahahahahaha

Thanks for the belly laugh.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

It's not the deep state that worries me, it's the surface state.

I'm glad I'm not one of those awful folks on the left. I'm a center extremist.

It's funny how conservatives rile against abortion, until they produce a love child.

Now you've gone and done it : Bahahahahaha

Thanks for the belly laugh.

True to form, my good friend awareness finds one hypocritical Republican, i.e. PA Rep. Tim Murphy, so he can condemn them all.

Ahhh yes, a true "center extremist" worried about the surface state.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Folks can say what they want about President Trump, but his unwavering defense of Israel, including the move of our embassy to Jerusalem, has caught the attention of Him on the throne.

Trump has nothing to do with wanting Jesus to come back.

And any Christian that compromises Christian principles by not being against what Israel is doing to the Palestinians will be disappointed when Jesus doesn't return for them.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Trump has nothing to do with wanting Jesus to come back.

And any Christian that compromises Christian principles by not being against what Israel is doing to the Palestinians will be disappointed when Jesus doesn't return for them.

The nation of Israel is the best thing going for the Palestinians. Israel provides jobs, justice, opportunity. The Palestinians biggest enemies are Hamas and the Iranians. Just ask the people in Palestine, they will tell you.

Trump supports Israel, and her defense. Unfortunately you appear to disdain Israel. Why is that? Israel has laws and is a democratic. Their women have rights. Compare that to Muslam nations, where women are slaves, without rights.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The nation of Israel is the best thing going for the Palestinians. Israel provides jobs, justice, opportunity. The Palestinians biggest enemies are Hamas and the Iranians. Just ask the people in Palestine, they will tell you.

Trump supports Israel, and her defense. Unfortunately you appear to disdain Israel. Why is that? Israel has laws and is a democratic. Their women have rights. Compare that to Muslam nations, where women are slaves, without rights.

These maps don't lie :

Palestinian Loss of Land: 1946 - 2012

http://auphr.org/index.php/news/5100...land-1946-2012

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

These maps don't lie :

Palestinian Loss of Land: 1946 - 2012

http://auphr.org/index.php/news/5100...land-1946-2012

Of course they lie.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I lost a lot of respect for the Bush family, father and sons, after they publicly criticized the Trump presidency.

For those against "dirty politics" seems they should be saying something about the legacy of Bush. Yes the Gulf war is a big part but let's make sure we really know the full story.

The year before our military invaded Panama and took Noriega because apparently he was selling drugs. The reality was this was a dress rehearsal for the Gulf war. They tested out all kinds of military hardware including stealth fighters, smart bombs and even lasers. They also worked on shutting out the press from reporting on any of it. Noriega was a CIA contact of Bush that he was more than happy to double cross. What they really accomplished was not about drugs (which we now know was as much a CIA operation as anything) but rather a way to annul the agreement Carter made to give Panama control of the canal.

The Gulf war was the same. Bush did the double cross on Saddam giving him a wink that suggested he could take Kuwait without the US intervening.

Not sure what Bush accomplished besides a trillion dollar war that we are still fighting almost 30 years later.