Pray-Reading is Scriptural

Sons to Glory! · 08-21-2019, 09:53 AM

I am most thankful for praying the word, turning the word into prayer, and just talking to Him with the word. This has become a 2nd nature thing. With the scripture devotional I use each morning (Daily Light), I just take those verses and get them into me, thank Him for what He has done, and/or turn them into little prayers. Very nourishing (aka the eating and drinking Jesus thread)!

In our business we talk about affirmations for people to use to sort of "reprogram their minds." And if I have the freedom with a particular class, I will tell them that scripture is the best "affirmation" of all to say over and over to themselves, to write it down, to tell others, etc.!

Raptor · 08-22-2019, 12:51 AM

examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group)

“Pray-Reading” the Scriptures~Matthew
http://www.incensearise.com/blogs/pr...ipturesmatthew
I don’t want to be guilty of reading the word without coming to the Lord while I read the Bible. By coming to Him, I mean connecting with Him, talking to Him while I read the verses. John 5:39-40, what this verse describes is lifeless religion with no connection, no conversation with the Lord in the study of His Holy word. These simple applications of prayer while we read the word are huge. It helps us engage with the Lord and “come to Him”.

DO YOU "PRAY-READ" THE BIBLE? – Joshua Hawkins
http://www.joshuahawkins.com/blog/20...ray-read-bible
It is not enough to simply study the Word, but we must give our heart to God and receive from Him as we read it. We must allow it to create an active dialogue with God - it in itself is the “conversational material” the Lord has given us to interact with Him. We must actually speak the Word back to God and against Satan’s attack on our lives. Many do not speak the Word back to God or against Satan and only speak it to others. Pray-reading is so simple and so powerful that anyone can do it. But at the same time it is so simple that very few actually do it. I can guarantee you that if you put this into practice in your life and do it consistently, your desires will change, your hunger for the Lord will increase, your heart will be alive like never before.

Pray-reading the Bible Paperback – 1998
By Lillie O Rogers
https://www.amazon.com/Pray-reading-.../dp/B0006R4QO8
out of print
HOW TO GET A COPY?

Bubbles! · 08-22-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

I am most thankful for praying the word, turning the word into prayer, and just talking to Him with the word. This has become a 2nd nature thing. With the scripture devotional I use each morning (Daily Light), I just take those verses and get them into me, thank Him for what He has done, and/or turn them into little prayers. Very nourishing (aka the eating and drinking Jesus thread)!

In our business we talk about affirmations for people to use to sort of "reprogram their minds." And if I have the freedom with a particular class, I will tell them that scripture is the best "affirmation" of all to say over and over to themselves, to write it down, to tell others, etc.!

Pray reading is very powerful, and essential, if done in sincerity, not just mumbling some mindless words. Brother Lee brought it to the forefront during the 70s, but, it has been around for a long time. A well known mystic named Emmet Fox talked about it in one of his books in the 1930s. The Quaker group I met with practiced something similar, on occasion. It's just largely forgotten.

Raptor · 08-23-2019, 07:19 AM

examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group)

How to Pray Scripture and Deepen Your Prayer Language – Kathryn Shirey
https://www.kathrynshirey.com/praying-scripture-how-to/
Praying Scripture back to God is a powerful way to pray deep and build your prayer language. What better way to honor our majestic God than to use His own words to praise Him and pray to Him? It’s also a way to dig deeper into scripture while you pray. Let the Spirit lead you in prayer through God’s words, build your prayer vocabulary, and use scripture as your guide for prayer. Praying through scripture has been a game-changer for my prayer life and helps me hear God more clearly. Every time I dive into God's Word in my prayers, I find my prayers become stronger, more expansive, and more connected to God.

Using the Bible to Pray: How to Turn Your Bible Reading Into a Conversation with God – Bethany McIlrath
https://livingbydesign.org/bible-rea...versation-god/
Prayer is a two-way conversation based on listening to God and having a conversation with Him through His Word. The goals of Bible-reading and prayer intertwine—both are ways of connecting with God for the purpose of growing in, serving, and glorifying Him. I’d encourage you to turn to God through His Word and begin praying over His Word as you read it.

Sons to Glory! · 08-23-2019, 08:11 AM

In my mind I think it is well established that pray-reading is a good thing - Biblically grounded - that has been practiced by many historically, as a way to talk to God, draw closer to Him and be nourished in spirit.

So what is it exactly that the LC does with this that is off the mark? (it may seem like a rhetorical, but I wonder what others would say)

Raptor · 08-26-2019, 06:48 AM

examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group)

10 Ways to Pray the Word of God-Debbie Przybylski, Wesley and Stacey Campbell
https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/pray...rd-of-god.html
I encourage you to start pray-reading the Word of God on a regular basis. You will be amazed at all that God has to say to you from His Word as you dialogue with Him. You will grow in your effectiveness in prayer, as God leads you into thrilling depths and greater heights in your relationship with Him. When we pray-read the Bible, God teaches us in a way that is tailor-made for us personally. The Holy Spirit prays through us and gives us new insights as we pray.

How to Pray-Read the Bible - Benjamin Schäfer
https://yearningheartsjourney.blogsp...rd-of-god.html
One way to significantly increase your time and pleasure with the written Word of God is to start praying it instead of merely reading it. Instead of reading it for information or to fulfill our bible reading plan assignments, we actually take it as God's personal word to us and use it to feed and guide our conversation with Jesus. We take the Word and pray it back to Him. Simply taken, it means having a conversation with God using His Word. This is called "pray-reading" the Word.

The Latent Power of God: Pray-Reading - Armando Rodriguez
https://www.amazon.in/Latent-Power-G.../dp/B00UZFZT88
In the past, it has been my custom to read through the Scripture on a daily basis. I have enjoyed doing so, but when I began to Pray-Read God’s Word, it changed me. As I mingle it with prayer, it has fanned to flame new desires. I have begun to see and hear God more often. My prayers are being answered. I find myself filled with a joy that I had not previously known. The Words of the Bible are being embedded into my thought patterns. I welcome the transformation even though I do not fully understand it. I have discovered a Source of Power that renews, revives, refreshes, fills, comforts, and empowers. This type of prayer has taken the word dull out of my Christian experience and has infused me with peace that surpasses all understanding.

awareness · 08-26-2019, 07:22 AM

Pray-reading is a way to numb the brain.

UntoHim · 08-26-2019, 07:30 AM

At times, that's what happened in the Local Church of Witness Lee. For some it was a way to "enjoy" and get something from the Word in a way that transcended common mental comprehension. I personally don't think there is much to gain from this kind of practice in a corporate setting, but I think it can help some in their personal daily devotional time.

countmeworthy · 08-26-2019, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awareness

Pray-reading is a way to numb the brain.

perhaps the LC method..perhaps your experience numbed your brain. it did not numb mine or many others. For me, I liken my experience as to when I was learning to write. I learned how to print a certain way. I learned to write cursive a certain way. But as I grew up with more practice I developed my own writing style.

I went to grade school and high school with some classmates from first to 12th grade. We all learned how to write using the same method. But by the time we were in high school, no one wrote the same way we were taught. We all had our own writing personalities if you will. Yet we all had the SAME foundation from the same teacher(s)

I liken pray reading in the LC back in 1975 in my locality as a teaching tool to pray God's Word back to Him..

I am sorry "pray reading' has done nothing for your brain. It has had a very positive effect on me an on many others.
Also..I just don't call it 'pray reading'..the LC term nor do I recite God's Word as we were taught back in the day.

Hope you are doing well.

Ohio · 08-27-2019, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group)

10 Ways to Pray the Word of God-Debbie Przybylski, Wesley and Stacey Campbell
https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/pray...rd-of-god.html
I encourage you to start pray-reading the Word of God on a regular basis. You will be amazed at all that God has to say to you from His Word as you dialogue with Him. You will grow in your effectiveness in prayer, as God leads you into thrilling depths and greater heights in your relationship with Him. When we pray-read the Bible, God teaches us in a way that is tailor-made for us personally. The Holy Spirit prays through us and gives us new insights as we pray.

How to Pray-Read the Bible - Benjamin Schäfer
https://yearningheartsjourney.blogsp...rd-of-god.html
One way to significantly increase your time and pleasure with the written Word of God is to start praying it instead of merely reading it. Instead of reading it for information or to fulfill our bible reading plan assignments, we actually take it as God's personal word to us and use it to feed and guide our conversation with Jesus. We take the Word and pray it back to Him. Simply taken, it means having a conversation with God using His Word. This is called "pray-reading" the Word.

The Latent Power of God: Pray-Reading - Armando Rodriguez
https://www.amazon.in/Latent-Power-G.../dp/B00UZFZT88
In the past, it has been my custom to read through the Scripture on a daily basis. I have enjoyed doing so, but when I began to Pray-Read God’s Word, it changed me. As I mingle it with prayer, it has fanned to flame new desires. I have begun to see and hear God more often. My prayers are being answered. I find myself filled with a joy that I had not previously known. The Words of the Bible are being embedded into my thought patterns. I welcome the transformation even though I do not fully understand it. I have discovered a Source of Power that renews, revives, refreshes, fills, comforts, and empowers. This type of prayer has taken the word dull out of my Christian experience and has infused me with peace that surpasses all understanding.

Raptor, thanks for posting this.

The real danger people face with WL and today's Blendeds is their use and misuse of Biblical semantics -- they take spiritual realities and distort their meanings for personal gains. "Pray-reading" the Bible is just one of a long list.

Another example is their abuse and distortion of the "oneness" of the believers.

Raptor · 08-28-2019, 07:53 AM

more examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group)

How to Pray-Read the Word - Mike Bickle
https://tinyurl.com/y5j9wvm3
https://www.ihopkc.org/resources/ass..._MB/auto/true/ VIDEO
When I moved from a purely “study mode” to a “dialogue mode” when reading the Bible, it changed my spiritual life. I began my journey into what I term “pray-reading” the Word. I could feel His presence in a greater way. I began to love God’s Word. When I look back on over forty years of walking with Jesus, I realize that pray-reading the Word—using the Bible as the “conversational material” in my prayer life—has been the single most significant activity in my spiritual life. This simple activity is essential to abiding in Christ.

Teaching Kids to Pray When Reading the Bible
https://www.futureflyingsaucers.com/...reading-bible/
Encourage your kids to pray asking God to give them understanding of the verses they are about to see. Have them pray that the Holy Spirit would help them to focus on the insights he will reveal. Then have your children read for their quiet time. Even better, if they are situated in a prayer place, ask them to whisper the scripture out loud. That way they are seeing AND hearing the words. As the Holy Spirit works, he will cause the words to come alive and, at times, be sharper than a two-edged sword. If you have Bible reading at the same time, when it ends, have everyone gather together. Lead your children to pray that they will obey what they read and that the Holy Spirit will remind them of the scriptures when needed. Pray as a group until the habit is formed.

Praying the Bible – Samuel Whitefield
https://samuelwhitefield.com/239/praying-the-bible
Pray reading is where, as you read, you turn phrases and verses into prayer and basically dialog with the Lord over the Scripture. This is much slower than just reading the passage, but also helps bring real life into the passage and helps apply it deeper to your heart. (But) What I mean by “Praying the Scriptures” is extracting key phrases, promises of rewards, commands, warnings, and blessings from a book of the Bible or a passage of Scripture and creating a prayer list from these verses.

08-21-2019, 09:53 AM	#1
Sons to Glory! Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,622	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural I am most thankful for praying the word, turning the word into prayer, and just talking to Him with the word. This has become a 2nd nature thing. With the scripture devotional I use each morning (Daily Light), I just take those verses and get them into me, thank Him for what He has done, and/or turn them into little prayers. Very nourishing (aka the eating and drinking Jesus thread)! In our business we talk about affirmations for people to use to sort of "reprogram their minds." And if I have the freedom with a particular class, I will tell them that scripture is the best "affirmation" of all to say over and over to themselves, to write it down, to tell others, etc.! __________________ *LC Berkeley 70s; LC Columbus OH 80s; An Ekklesia in Scottsdale 98-now*

08-22-2019, 12:51 AM	#2
Raptor Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 419	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group) “Pray-Reading” the Scriptures~Matthew http://www.incensearise.com/blogs/pr...ipturesmatthew I don’t want to be guilty of reading the word without coming to the Lord while I read the Bible. By coming to Him, I mean connecting with Him, talking to Him while I read the verses. John 5:39-40, what this verse describes is lifeless religion with no connection, no conversation with the Lord in the study of His Holy word. These simple applications of prayer while we read the word are huge. It helps us engage with the Lord and “come to Him”. DO YOU "PRAY-READ" THE BIBLE? – Joshua Hawkins http://www.joshuahawkins.com/blog/20...ray-read-bible It is not enough to simply study the Word, but we must give our heart to God and receive from Him as we read it. We must allow it to create an active dialogue with God - it in itself is the “conversational material” the Lord has given us to interact with Him. We must actually speak the Word back to God and against Satan’s attack on our lives. Many do not speak the Word back to God or against Satan and only speak it to others. Pray-reading is so simple and so powerful that anyone can do it. But at the same time it is so simple that very few actually do it. I can guarantee you that if you put this into practice in your life and do it consistently, your desires will change, your hunger for the Lord will increase, your heart will be alive like never before. Pray-reading the Bible Paperback – 1998 By Lillie O Rogers https://www.amazon.com/Pray-reading-.../dp/B0006R4QO8 out of print HOW TO GET A COPY?

08-23-2019, 07:19 AM	#4
Raptor Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 419	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group) How to Pray Scripture and Deepen Your Prayer Language – Kathryn Shirey https://www.kathrynshirey.com/praying-scripture-how-to/ Praying Scripture back to God is a powerful way to pray deep and build your prayer language. What better way to honor our majestic God than to use His own words to praise Him and pray to Him? It’s also a way to dig deeper into scripture while you pray. Let the Spirit lead you in prayer through God’s words, build your prayer vocabulary, and use scripture as your guide for prayer. Praying through scripture has been a game-changer for my prayer life and helps me hear God more clearly. Every time I dive into God's Word in my prayers, I find my prayers become stronger, more expansive, and more connected to God. Using the Bible to Pray: How to Turn Your Bible Reading Into a Conversation with God – Bethany McIlrath https://livingbydesign.org/bible-rea...versation-god/ Prayer is a two-way conversation based on listening to God and having a conversation with Him through His Word. The goals of Bible-reading and prayer intertwine—both are ways of connecting with God for the purpose of growing in, serving, and glorifying Him. I’d encourage you to turn to God through His Word and begin praying over His Word as you read it.

08-23-2019, 08:11 AM	#5
Sons to Glory! Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,622	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural In my mind I think it is well established that pray-reading is a good thing - Biblically grounded - that has been practiced by many historically, as a way to talk to God, draw closer to Him and be nourished in spirit. So what is it exactly that the LC does with this that is off the mark? (it may seem like a rhetorical, but I wonder what others would say) __________________ *LC Berkeley 70s; LC Columbus OH 80s; An Ekklesia in Scottsdale 98-now*

08-26-2019, 06:48 AM	#6
Raptor Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 419	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group) 10 Ways to Pray the Word of God-Debbie Przybylski, Wesley and Stacey Campbell https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/pray...rd-of-god.html I encourage you to start pray-reading the Word of God on a regular basis. You will be amazed at all that God has to say to you from His Word as you dialogue with Him. You will grow in your effectiveness in prayer, as God leads you into thrilling depths and greater heights in your relationship with Him. When we pray-read the Bible, God teaches us in a way that is tailor-made for us personally. The Holy Spirit prays through us and gives us new insights as we pray. How to Pray-Read the Bible - Benjamin Schäfer https://yearningheartsjourney.blogsp...rd-of-god.html One way to significantly increase your time and pleasure with the written Word of God is to start praying it instead of merely reading it. Instead of reading it for information or to fulfill our bible reading plan assignments, we actually take it as God's personal word to us and use it to feed and guide our conversation with Jesus. We take the Word and pray it back to Him. Simply taken, it means having a conversation with God using His Word. This is called "pray-reading" the Word. The Latent Power of God: Pray-Reading - Armando Rodriguez https://www.amazon.in/Latent-Power-G.../dp/B00UZFZT88 In the past, it has been my custom to read through the Scripture on a daily basis. I have enjoyed doing so, but when I began to Pray-Read God’s Word, it changed me. As I mingle it with prayer, it has fanned to flame new desires. I have begun to see and hear God more often. My prayers are being answered. I find myself filled with a joy that I had not previously known. The Words of the Bible are being embedded into my thought patterns. I welcome the transformation even though I do not fully understand it. I have discovered a Source of Power that renews, revives, refreshes, fills, comforts, and empowers. This type of prayer has taken the word dull out of my Christian experience and has infused me with peace that surpasses all understanding.

08-26-2019, 07:22 AM	#7
awareness Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,064	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural Pray-reading is a way to numb the brain. __________________ Cults: My brain will always be there for you. Thinking. So you don't have to. There's a serpent in every paradise.

08-26-2019, 07:30 AM	#8
UntoHim Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον For God So Loved The World Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,828	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural At times, that's what happened in the Local Church of Witness Lee. For some it was a way to "enjoy" and get something from the Word in a way that transcended common mental comprehension. I personally don't think there is much to gain from this kind of practice in a corporate setting, but I think it can help some in their personal daily devotional time. __________________ αὐτῷ ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων ἀμήν - 1 Peter 5:11

08-28-2019, 07:53 AM	#11
Raptor Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 419	Re: Pray-Reading is Scriptural more examples of other non-LC believers sharing/teaching about pray-reading. (not endorsing any group) How to Pray-Read the Word - Mike Bickle https://tinyurl.com/y5j9wvm3 https://www.ihopkc.org/resources/ass..._MB/auto/true/ VIDEO When I moved from a purely “study mode” to a “dialogue mode” when reading the Bible, it changed my spiritual life. I began my journey into what I term “pray-reading” the Word. I could feel His presence in a greater way. I began to love God’s Word. When I look back on over forty years of walking with Jesus, I realize that pray-reading the Word—using the Bible as the “conversational material” in my prayer life—has been the single most significant activity in my spiritual life. This simple activity is essential to abiding in Christ. Teaching Kids to Pray When Reading the Bible https://www.futureflyingsaucers.com/...reading-bible/ Encourage your kids to pray asking God to give them understanding of the verses they are about to see. Have them pray that the Holy Spirit would help them to focus on the insights he will reveal. Then have your children read for their quiet time. Even better, if they are situated in a prayer place, ask them to whisper the scripture out loud. That way they are seeing AND hearing the words. As the Holy Spirit works, he will cause the words to come alive and, at times, be sharper than a two-edged sword. If you have Bible reading at the same time, when it ends, have everyone gather together. Lead your children to pray that they will obey what they read and that the Holy Spirit will remind them of the scriptures when needed. Pray as a group until the habit is formed. Praying the Bible – Samuel Whitefield https://samuelwhitefield.com/239/praying-the-bible Pray reading is where, as you read, you turn phrases and verses into prayer and basically dialog with the Lord over the Scripture. This is much slower than just reading the passage, but also helps bring real life into the passage and helps apply it deeper to your heart. (But) What I mean by “Praying the Scriptures” is extracting key phrases, promises of rewards, commands, warnings, and blessings from a book of the Bible or a passage of Scripture and creating a prayer list from these verses.