LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

SerenityLives · 09-23-2020, 08:42 AM

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But I wasn't there, and neither were any of us. All we've got is a skimpy record.

But we do have : Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed

sorry this part made me laugh so hard

Ohio · 09-23-2020, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by awareness

But we do have : Luke 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed

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Originally Posted by SerenityLives

sorry this part made me laugh so hard

But, of course, the Bible never says "two men" in one bed, it simply says "two."

KJV added "men" in italics to, I suppose, identify two humans, rather than a couple of dogs or perhaps MyPillows.

Sons to Glory! · 09-23-2020, 10:44 AM

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But, of course, the Bible never says "two men" in one bed, it simply says "two."

KJV added "men" in italics to, I suppose, identify two humans, rather than a couple of dogs or perhaps MyPillows.

You are so very creative, bro!

awareness · 09-23-2020, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio

But, of course, the Bible never says "two men" in one bed, it simply says "two."

KJV added "men" in italics to, I suppose, identify two humans, rather than a couple of dogs or perhaps MyPillows.

Many translations besides the KJV has "two men," including the ASV, Darby, and many others.

Besides, before modernity, it wasn't uncommon for two men to sleep in the same bed together. And I suppose no one is concerned when two women sleep in the same bed together. And they can grind together too, it goes on to say, in verse 35.

Again, these verses only goes to prove that the record is skimpy, leaving it open to question.

Now, more importantly, just because you hate this thread doesn't mean you should be trying to sabotage it.

Ohio · 09-23-2020, 04:43 PM

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Many translations besides the KJV has "two men," including the ASV, Darby, and many others.

Besides, before modernity, it wasn't uncommon for two men to sleep in the same bed together. And I suppose no one is concerned when two women sleep in the same bed together. And they can grind together too, it goes on to say, in verse 35.

Again, these verses only goes to prove that the record is skimpy, leaving it open to question.

Now, more importantly, just because you hate this thread doesn't mean you should be trying to sabotage it.

I told you what the Greek said "duo" -- "TWO." Look it up. Whenever the Bible or translators refers to people, they normally say "men" or perhaps use the inflected ending for male gender. Sometimes not. The English language has very few gender specific words (e.g. his, her) so most Americans don't understand that nouns and pronouns in other languages often have inflected endings.

A while ago you said God was female because the word for "wisdom" is feminine. Today you are implying that Jesus is gay because the Bible was silent about it. The reader should be aware that you have a severe bias against God, His word, and His people.

How do you know what was "common" before "modernity?" Were you there? Human nature has not changed, only technology, and I assert that it made many of us more stupid.

Once again your mind is in the gutter bro. "Grind together" (Lk 17.35) is in the flour mill, and is not a sexual act. You also have gender stereotypes here. The verse says "duo" -- "TWO." The verse does NOT say "two women." All of that is assumed by translators.

Each verse in Luke 17:34, 35, 36 refers to "two" or "duo" in Greek. The word "men" in v 34 and v 36 is added. The word "women" in v 35 is added.

Obviously you can twist any verse to say what you want. It's a habit of yours. At least try to maintain a little integrity about what the scripture says.

Obviously I don't hate this thread, as you suppose. I have presented a number of unique perspectives which no one has responded to. Perhaps you also are afraid of the honest truth?

SerenityLives · 09-23-2020, 05:13 PM

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I have presented a number of unique perspectives which no one has responded to

Which persoectives havent been responded to? Is it the sports one? You havent responded to one of the poster’s questions regarding how lgbtq rights affect you.

Ohio · 09-23-2020, 07:06 PM

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Which persoectives havent been responded to? Is it the sports one? You havent responded to one of the poster’s questions regarding how lgbtq rights affect you.

That's right. I will not divulge personal hardships. None of your business.

I have addressed damages to society as a whole, and women in particular, by the trans movement. None has been willing to discuss that.

Then my posts were regularly distorted. Pretty disingenuous.

09-23-2020, 10:28 PM

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That's right. I will not divulge personal hardships. None of your business.

I have addressed damages to society as a whole, and women in particular, by the trans movement. None has been willing to discuss that.

Then my posts were regularly distorted. Pretty disingenuous.

Because it doesnt affect you. Only the sports issues because your son is in it. A lot of trans people are not in sports. Why don’t you address that?

Surely you havent been reading any of the posts above regarding other’s perspectives

clever sister · 09-23-2020, 10:31 PM

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That's right. I will not divulge personal hardships. None of your business.

I have addressed damages to society as a whole, and women in particular, by the trans movement. None has been willing to discuss that.

Then my posts were regularly distorted. Pretty disingenuous.

Personally I have not been discussing it because I do not see any damage being done to ciswomen, only damage being done to transwomen, transmen and intersex women.

Yes, there are predators, but they can be of any gender identity.
There is plenty of evidence to show that men do not need to dress up as women to be a danger to women.

awareness · 09-24-2020, 07:57 AM

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That's right. I will not divulge personal hardships. None of your business.

Or ... prolly ... you haven't been impacted by same sex marriage at all.

awareness · 09-23-2020, 07:43 PM

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Obviously I don't hate this thread, as you suppose. I have presented a number of unique perspectives which no one has responded to. Perhaps you also are afraid of the honest truth?

Well you've been honest, admitting that you stand on the Bible, and therefore LGBTQ+ are an abomination to God. So your unique views are just covering for your real views.

We've got it. There's no since in carrying on. The gays know the applicable verses better than most Bible Thumpers. They are used as ammunition against them.

So stop shooting.