Is it Possible to Have Genuine Fellowship with an Absolute Brother?

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Would you categorize John Ingalls as absolute? I mean yes he did abide to witness lee ministry for quite some time but I wouldnt categorize him as absolute. He had a strong threshold to his ministry for many decades but when push came to shove he had to break away along with many other elders who sided with him. Steve Isitt is sort of like John Ingalls in similarity of tolerance and acceptance of lee ministry. I still think Steve wants and thinks he is still in the LC. He just had a burden to not suppress the truth in history. Same thing with John Ingalls, he had a high threshold but enough is enough with the 18 point of concern he had for the local churches, it was clear to me that John Ingalls was not "absolute" for the change in nature of the lords recovery. Even if Philip Lee was not a thing, those 18 points was till disturbing him. Also just John Ingalls, I really dont think he was obstinate/ absolute at all. The lords recovery would really benefit from a man like Ingalls rather than the BB goons who just use fear, manipulation, and authoritative control to get their way.

The epitome of an "absolute" brother are those very same "blended" who sided with Lee when he threw Ingalls, So, Mallon and many others under the bus. They wanted to remain high up in witness lee ministry and now they have it. Today they are his obsequious sycophants and will crush anyone who are genuinely concern and dissent due to the burden of truth that they have.

John Ingalls seems like a man who joined the local churches on a false promise by witness lee. I say false promise I have heard my fair share of testimonies from old school elders who joined in the early days and talked about why they joined, what witness lee initially described what the LC would be, and after some thought, anyone who is not obstinate realized it was nothing at all what he promised. In fact witness lee had no intentions to grow the "LOCAL" churches. He wanted to grow his own ministry, he wanted to grow the witness "LEE" churches and his ministry. The local churches meant nothing to him if they did not bow down to his ministry. In the Steve Isitt thread regarding leaders of the lords recovery in post 219, you clearly see how even senior co workers from Taiwan had this genuine concern of witness lee domineering over the local churches with his ministry. He couldn't deny it to the senior coworkers face because he knew darn well it was the truth but couldn't admit to it possibly cause of shame or admittance of wrong (which witness lee hated doing).

If someone here knows John Ingalls quite well then please feel free to expand on John Ingalls character/mentality towards lee ministry. From my experience, the perpetuation of evil was a breaking point. He was not "absolute" just a man with a threshold that was bound to break due to the severe consequences of living under witness lee ministry.

Question for Terry- Did your uncle mean, "what happened to John Ingalls", as like where did he go and do after being excommunicated from the local churches? Or did your uncle not even know that John was excommunicated due to a turmoil started by Philip Lee crimes? It seems sad man, it must be terrible to be absolutely powerless to help a man like Ingalls who gave so much to the recovery and only ended up being demonized, while the piece of trash Philip Lee gets a nice little burial "loving father and husband", exaltation of Witness lee "Closes" coworker and no accountability of crimes like that of Philip lee.