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Old 12-27-2021, 08:14 PM   #1
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Default Re: The Four Horses - Revelation 6

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The four horses are described in Zechariah. They have been active since "the foundation of the world", which is where the first four seals were opened, and where Christ was standing 'as having been slain'.

The white horse is not the 'gospel', or anything 'positive'. Rather, the four together administer fatal judgement on mankind, with Hades in the back gathering up the dead souls.

I believe the fifth seal marks the beginning of the Tribulation. Martyrs from that point forward do not go to Hades, but rather form the army that will return with Christ soon after that.
I would like to read more about the fifth seal, can recommend some sources?
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Old 12-28-2021, 07:32 AM   #2
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I would like to read more about the fifth seal, can recommend some sources?
Unfortunately, I have yet to find a source that I like.

The first four seals are obviously linked together. The 5th and 6th seals have one thing in common: they both discuss martyrdom, and both describe martyrs as wearing white robes.

The difference, to me, is that the 5th seal refers to martyrs who were killed before the tribulation, and the 6th to those who are killed during the tribulation.

The 5th seal martyrs are in Hades, have been waiting for a long time, and are told to wait just a little longer. The 6th seal martyrs are in heaven, having bypassed Hades. I presume that when the 5th seal martyrs are given their robes, they will also be given access to heaven, to be joined shortly by the 6th seal martyrs as they are killed.

I take it that all these martyrs dressed in white will return with Christ as His army.
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Old 12-28-2021, 08:11 AM   #3
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I would like to read more about the fifth seal, can recommend some sources?
https://wake-up.org/book-of-life-who...ifth-seal.html

This one is interesting.
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