The Sectarian Mindset of Local Church Leaders

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Igzy

When the Lord says in Revelation, "Come out of her, my people," speaking of coming out of Babylon the Great Harlot, assuming Babylon represents a corrupt religious system, what do you think he is talking about?

Is he talking about leaving the church one is in, or is he telling churches to stop being tethered to evil systems? I think in many cases it must be the latter.

I went to a wedding this weekend in a Catholic church in Arlington, TX. It was a simple non-ornate parish and the presence of the Lord was there. The word of God was pure and clear. I saw no religious corruption.

Now, if the Lord is calling these people to leave Babylon, what is he telling them to do? Abandon their church and the Christians they have relationships with? I don't think so. That's not building, it's tearing down. I think He's calling them to cut ties with evil systems.

Same with LRC churches, I would think.

Interesting question. I think this is what the book of Ruth says. On a superficial reading of the Bible you would think that the OT condemns Ruth because she is a Moabitess. But as Boaz points out you have a contradiction in the OT, Ruth is also a widow of an Israelite. So which verse do you heed? Boaz and the book of Ruth gives us the answer, Ruth is judged by her own heart. In her own heart she said "your people will be my people". Ruth decided that she was a widow of an Israelite first and foremost. This may be an example of "come out of her my people". We also chose in our heart to leave a corrupt, evil, worldly system. Since this is a symptom of fallen man it should be no surprise that religious systems can also become infected with a corrupt, evil system. So if you look at the Lord's letters to the churches in Revelation you can see that the only requirement he puts on those in the Catholic church is to be pure in heart and to not know the deep things of Satan.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Interesting question. I think this is what the book of Ruth says. On a superficial reading of the Bible you would think that the OT condemns Ruth because she is a Moabitess. But as Boaz points out you have a contradiction in the OT, Ruth is also a widow of an Israelite. So which verse do you heed? Boaz and the book of Ruth gives us the answer, Ruth is judged by her own heart. In her own heart she said "your people will be my people". Ruth decided that she was a widow of an Israelite first and foremost. This may be an example of "come out of her my people". We also chose in our heart to leave a corrupt, evil, worldly system. Since this is a symptom of fallen man it should be no surprise that religious systems can also become infected with a corrupt, evil system. So if you look at the Lord's letters to the churches in Revelation you can see that the only requirement he puts on those in the Catholic church is to be pure in heart and to not know the deep things of Satan.

Brother ZNP, you bring up some of the tragic ironies that captured me 35 years ago. That summer training on Revelations was my first, and the level of hatred spewed forth towards the RCC, where I grew up, was highlighted by the call, "come out of her, My people." Yet, to the church in Thyatira, supposedly the prophetic type of the RCC, there was no such call by the Lord. Instead, that call was used by the Recovery to "come out" of all of "degraded Christianity," as if the Recovery was the only true testimony of Christ on earth.

Personally, my own gospel became leavened by that teaching. Instead of preaching Christ and Him crucified to my friends and family, I now preached "escape" from the idolatry of Jezebel. Little did I know back in those days in the book of Revelation, Max Rapoport rose to prominence by arm-twisting Daystar investors, and the chaos of the "universal coordination of the one new man," was about to hit the LC near you.

It's no wonder WL and the "Blendeds to be" had to silence Ingalls and so many other whistle-blowers. They had begun to look at the deformed and degraded LSM monstrosity, and cried out, "come out of her, My people."