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Old 11-08-2016, 08:58 PM   #1
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After months of heart-wrenching deliberation concerning Presidential election, I decided to vote for the only professing Christian.
Good choice. Tough choice. Pence is a genuine professing Christian. Trump is a hypocritical professing Christian. Clinton she's the devil.
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Old 11-09-2016, 01:29 AM   #2
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Good choice. Tough choice. Pence is a genuine professing Christian. Trump is a hypocritical professing Christian. Clinton she's the devil.
I voted early and had to wait an hour, which was crazy since in some past elections, i never waited more than a few minutes. I talked to quite an interesting and well-traveled guy behind me who talked the whole time, interrupted by probably two dozen calls and texts. He make a number of interesting observations. Three of them I'll repeat -- the whole election is about SCOTUS appointments, Trump would win, and that "they" would knock off Trump, leaving Pence Prez.

Sounded crazy yesterday, today I wonder.
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:51 AM   #3
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I voted early and had to wait an hour, which was crazy since in some past elections, i never waited more than a few minutes. I talked to quite an interesting and well-traveled guy behind me who talked the whole time, interrupted by probably two dozen calls and texts. He make a number of interesting observations. Three of them I'll repeat -- the whole election is about SCOTUS appointments, Trump would win, and that "they" would knock off Trump, leaving Pence Prez.

Sounded crazy yesterday, today I wonder.
Wow, I didn't even think of that, but imagine being in the Secret Service and waking up today. How are you going to protect this guy for 4 years?

Also, for those who think things are bad today, imagine what they would be like the day after an attempt on our newly elected representative.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:38 AM   #4
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Wow, I didn't even think of that, but imagine being in the Secret Service and waking up today. How are you going to protect this guy for 4 years?

Also, for those who think things are bad today, imagine what they would be like the day after an attempt on our newly elected representative.
The million dollar question is this ... Why were all the pollsters wrong?

So very wrong.

I think the answer is simple ... Political correctness gone haywire.

People can no longer speak what they really believe, and only in secret ... The voting booth ... Do they express their true feelings.
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The million dollar question is this ... Why were all the pollsters wrong?

So very wrong.

I think the answer is simple ... Political correctness gone haywire.

People can no longer speak what they really believe, and only in secret ... The voting booth ... Do they express their true feelings.
I agree with Trump on this one, the system is rigged.

I like to listen to the Jonathan Stewart show, he got replaced with Trevor Noah who is so blatantly biased it is pathetic. I feel the media was very dishonest in their coverage.
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I agree with Trump on this one, the system is rigged.

I like to listen to the Jonathan Stewart show, he got replaced with Trevor Noah who is so blatantly biased it is pathetic. I feel the media was very dishonest in their coverage.
It took WikiLeaks to shout from rooftops how corrupt the system is. CNN and the DNC in cahoots for so-called fair and honest debates? Nonsense.

And what's up with all the "moral outrage" over Trump? Was it not these same media folks that hammered us with the drumbeat during the Bill Clinton era that it was "all about job performance," and that personal ethics in the oval office with interns was none of our business?

I thank the Lord that I never had an appetite for cheap humor. I think much of America's moral decline is due to it.
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The million dollar question is this ... Why were all the pollsters wrong?

So very wrong.

I think the answer is simple ... Political correctness gone haywire.

People can no longer speak what they really believe, and only in secret ... The voting booth ... Do they express their true feelings.
Another explanation was given.

Clinton was all but guaranteed the election victory, that many of her supporters stayed home.
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If evangelical Christians voted for Trump as I read they did, they have lost any claim to moral authority or family values. Their Christianity is as genuine as Melania's boobs.
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If evangelical Christians voted for Trump as I read they did, they have lost any claim to moral authority or family values. Their Christianity is as genuine as Melania's boobs.
This is so extreme and judgmental.

Perhaps they voted for Pence.

Was a vote for Hillary more moral? Was she not the "First Lady Enabler" whose husband left a trail of molested women? What about that long trail of "suspicious and mysterious deaths" with numerous "Arkancides?" **

Can evangelical Christians who voted for the Clintons then claim any moral authority or family values?

Politics is filthy business.

** Note to the less informed: An Arkancide is the suspicious death of a person close to Clintons, who is shot at point blank range in the back of the head, and made to look like a suicide. A problem then developed when the authorities tried to explain how the dead body was magically moved to another location post mortem and no gun was found. That, by definition, is conspiratorial, and is murder by one's own government, an apparent specialty by Clinton associates.
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If evangelical Christians voted for Trump as I read they did, they have lost any claim to moral authority or family values. Their Christianity is as genuine as Melania's boobs.
That's like saying any Christian who has ever lied, any Christian who has ever stolen, any Christian who has ever swore, etc has "lost any claim to moral authority or family values."

By your false standards, all the Psalms of David and all the epistles of Paul, should be ripped out of scripture.

And we are now talking about actual failures committed by these writers.

You, however, would take this ten steps further, by imputing all Trump's sins on all those who voted for him.

Seriously?

By what judgment you judge, you also will be judged.

zeek, you may claim to be "balanced," but just about every post of yours displays serious negative bias towards God, His word, and His people.
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If evangelical Christians voted for Trump as I read they did, they have lost any claim to moral authority or family values. Their Christianity is as genuine as Melania's boobs.
So then we judge Christians based on whether they voted democrat or republican?

For the record I did more soul searching for this election than any previous one. I eliminated Donald Trump very early on, even before he was nominated. However, I continued to consider Clinton much, much longer than I ever would have otherwise.

But in the end I felt that I could not in good conscience vote for her. I felt the two other candidates were both a joke and not even worthy of a protest vote.

So, I stayed home. I live in NY, the state was not in play, my vote was irrelevant from day one. But, I felt the best thing for this election is the fewer people who vote the better.

Doing the math there were 12% of registered voters actually voted for Trump because they wanted him (the rest either were voting against Clinton or not voting). There was a similar number for Clinton. If 76% of Americans had not voted that would have been the best possible outcome. One of them would be elected with 12% of the vote but there would be no mandate.

That said I am hopeful that this will turn out for the best. I am reminded of the protests in the streets of NY when Ronald Reagan was president, everyone was concerned he was going to start a nuclear war. In the end it turned out for the best and I now like him as a president.
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