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[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice." Barry Goldwater. You calling me judgmental is funny. Thanks, I needed a laugh.

Oh, so you have changed your opinion about Trump? He is now a defender of liberty?

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Oh, so you have changed your opinion about Trump? He is now a defender of liberty?

The Crotch Grabber [I toned down my language in deference to UntoHim] is the Voice of White Backlash.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

The Crotch Grabber [I toned down my language in deference to UntoHim] is the Voice of White Backlash.

Everything is racist to a true liberal. They can't see things any other way.

zeek, why do you buy into that liberal "theology" about the "evil white man." I thought you were smarter than that. You spend too much time listening to the mainstream media. Listen to their drumbeat: "All those evil white men who voted for Trump! They are all racists, haters, bigoted, xenophobes, misogynists, religious hypocrites, homophobic, backward, fundamentalist, etc. -- the voice of White Backlash."

Can't you see thru that nonsense? It comes thru your posts loud and clear! It comes out demeaning God, His word, and His people. Then it goes after all conservatives, white males, and anyone not super "progressive" like you.

Look at those liberals marching down the streets in every major city screaming hateful profanities at Trump and the rest of society because of all their "perceived prejudices." These are the blind liberal religious zealots on the loose, stirred up by their online religious "services."

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

The Crotch Grabber [I toned down my language in deference to UntoHim] is the Voice of White Backlash.

I find it interesting that they have claimed the vote for Trump is white backlash. So let's explore that.

1. Trump received less votes than Romney, not much of a backlash.

2. The real reason that Clinton lost is that she received 8 million votes less than Obama.

I have heard that this vote was sexist as though she lost because men didn't want a woman. Trump received about 22% of registered votes, since women represent over 50% of registered voters It seems Clinton lost because women didn't vote for her.

I think what is really happening is that the people who dislike trump are so arrogant and absorbed in their own thoughts they are unable to think that anyone else (60 million Americans) actually have any issues of their own.

Imagine you lost your job because of NAFTA, who are you going to vote for?

Imagine you are relatively poor, don't have health care at work so you have to pay for Obamacare and the premiums just jumped 33%. You should be voting Democrat, but will you?

Suppose you are unemployed, who you going to blame, an immigrant? If so, who are you going to vote for?

Suppose you lost a father, son or brother fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. Who are you going to vote for?

I didn't see any marches or protests when Obama was elected, but now that Trump is elected we see all these "Black Lives Matter" protests. If you are as racist as that organization you don't have the ground to call others racist.

We also see Bernie supporters joining the march, they aren't protesting Trump they are protesting the DNC.

Suppose you are concerned about who is going to appoint the next Supreme court justice. If you feel that Washington has ignored you, and more than 50% of Americans do, and if you feel that the Supreme court has foisted laws onto the public that they don't want and don't agree with, then who are you going to vote for?

There are very real issues in this election and to dismiss the voice of 60 million people as being "racist backlash" is the willful ignorance. The fact that Van Jones is pushing that narrative is very disappointing to me (my students and I made a movie about him a couple of years ago).

[awareness]

Originally Posted by zeek

The Crotch Grabber [I toned down my language in deference to UntoHim] is the Voice of White Backlash.

Don't forget the white evangelicals :

Largest Evangelical Turnout in History Helps Donald Trump
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/11/09/l...llary-clinton/

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Don't forget the white evangelicals :

Largest Evangelical Turnout in History Helps Donald Trump
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/11/09/l...llary-clinton/

How can this be? That's heretical, sacrilegious, abominational, and even wrong.

Don't they know that Moses commanded us never to vote? And Jesus commanded us never to vote for Caesar? And the Apostles warned us about voting for rich people? And an angel from heaven forbade us from voting for men with foreign wives?

Now where are those verses at? Help me out folks.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by zeek

The Crotch Grabber [I toned down my language in deference to UntoHim] is the Voice of White Backlash.

Not everyone who voted for Trump was white, see this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ted-for-trump/

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Not everyone who voted for Trump was white, see this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ted-for-trump/

A few outliers on the extremes of the bell-shaped curve don't constitute a significant statistical trend.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Not everyone who voted for Trump was white, see this

And not everyone that voted were counted in the win. Hillary won the popular vote.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

And not everyone that voted were counted in the win. Hillary won the popular vote.

Hence the problem with a democracy. If we did this by popular vote the politicians would focus exclusively on cities where 2/3 of the US population lives. The top 10 cities in population would probably get 80% of their attention. New Hampshire and Iowa would become irrelevant and forgotten. It would be akin to the Hunger Games. Besides fiction is so bogus, instead of some girl winning because everyone else killed themselves leaving her relatively guilt free, the reality is she gets killed for her sins and the big contemptible bully wins which is much more realistic.

On the other hand if we did a parliamentary system we would always get a political insider as Prime Minister.

I think that now that we have the internet it is possible and practical to use referendums more and I think we should.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

And not everyone that voted were counted in the win. Hillary won the popular vote.

Obviously the Founding Fathers foresaw that big city power brokers needed to be balanced by the electoral system.

That's like complaining why should Wyoming get two Senate seats, the same number as California?

I'm amazed at how little liberals know about our "republic." Democratic leaders constantly tell their people we are a "democracy," but we are not. I do wish folks would study a little political science and get educated properly.

If Democrats have any complaints about the election, it should be at their own corrupt leaders. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY!

Bernie Sanders needs his day in court! But wait ... he already got paid off for taking the fall in round one.