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[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

Professional journalism is dying. The Internet is killing it.

Nah, it is changing it.

Originally Posted by zeek

People tend to pick whatever source tells them what they want to hear. They evaluate sources accordingly. Mainstream media is rejected because it is elitist or liberal.

The story of CBS news is the story of how professional journalists were eventually compromised and taken over by a corporate mindset. This has killed their journalism. But it opened the door for NPR (Frontline) and Internet bloggers. The job is integral to democracy and hence it will continue. The most professional people doing it will still come out of excellent universities and will do this out of love and not for money. As long as you have corruption you will have those who battle corruption.

Originally Posted by zeek

Confirmation bias will go to great lengths to find the allies it needs. I stay in touch with people of varying political philosophies including people here to combat this tendency.

Well a great example of confirmation bias is this last election. Problem with that is that reality will rear its ugly head every so often just as it did in this election. But even in the midst of the worst example of confirmation bias I saw several (2) pundits who do poll analysis who predicted a Trump victory based on their algorithms. Not to mention Bill Clinton who also saw this coming behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by zeek

There are even people on the Internet who lie just to catch people in it so they can say "Gotcha." Success is when they catch a high profile celebrity, politician or pundit.

It is a jungle, just like the Wild West. But it will eventually be civilized. We need a John Wayne for the internet. A Billy the Snowden Kid, or maybe a new sheriff in Tombstone, perhaps Julian Asange.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

It is a jungle, just like the Wild West. But it will eventually be civilized. We need a John Wayne for the internet. A Billy the Snowden Kid, or maybe a new sheriff in Tombstone, perhaps Julian Asange.

How about a new Attorney General to prosecute these crooks and liars?

How about an independent Prosecutor to look at the IRS and Benghazi.

[zeek]

Not- my- president" Democrat Whiner says :"I don't want to see trickle-down racism...
I don't want to see a president of the United States saying things which change the character of the generations of Americans that are following.
Presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation, and

• trickle-down racism,
• trickle-down bigotry,
• trickle-down misogyny,

all these things are extraordinarily dangerous to the heart and character of America."
I think he makes a good point. What do you say?

[zeek]

Ohio, I read that your true Christian role model, Mike cough cough Pence, received more than $100,000 in donations from the tobacco industry over the years and in return, disseminated the false claim that cigarette smoke poses little danger. Is that true?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Ohio, I read that your true Christian role model, Mike cough cough Pence, received more than $100,000 in donations from the tobacco industry over the years and in return, disseminated the false claim that cigarette smoke poses little danger. Is that true?

He is not running for church pastor zeek. Anybody can donate money.

"Let him who is without sin be the first to give $5 to a political campaign."

At least the donor was American, that's way more than we can say about the Clinton's.

Is that the only "splinter" you can find on Pence?

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

He is not running for church pastor zeek. Anybody can donate money.

"Let him who is without sin be the first to give $5 to a political campaign."

At least the donor was American, that's way more than we can say about the Clinton's.

Is that the only "splinter" you can find on Pence?

Know any smokers who have died from cancer, 4Dead?

[zeek]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016...etail=facebook

Don't be surprised if Judge Curiel dies mysteriously in the near future.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Know any smokers who have died from cancer, 4Dead?

Sorry to hear that you still smoke.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

Ohio, I read that your true Christian role model, Mike cough cough Pence, received more than $100,000 in donations from the tobacco industry over the years and in return, disseminated the false claim that cigarette smoke poses little danger. Is that true?

Cigarette smoke does pose danger.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

"Not my president" Democrat whiner says,"I don't want to see trickle-down racism...I don't want to see a president of the United States saying things which change the character of the generations of Americans that are following. Presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation, and trickle-down racism, trickle-down bigotry, trickle-down misogyny, all these things are extraordinarily dangerous to the heart and character of America." I think he makes a good point. What do you say?

Sounds like he/she was talking about Bill and Hillary Clinton.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Sounds like he/she was talking about Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Bahahahaha! It's ole tit-for-tat Fourdead N. Ohio!

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

Not- my- president" Democrat Whiner says :"I don't want to see trickle-down racism...
I don't want to see a president of the United States saying things which change the character of the generations of Americans that are following.
Presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation, and

• trickle-down racism,
• trickle-down bigotry,
• trickle-down misogyny,

all these things are extraordinarily dangerous to the heart and character of America."
I think he makes a good point. What do you say?

I agree that a President may have more influence than many other people, perhaps not as much as a rap star, or hollywood star, or basketball star, but still they do have some influence.

What I don't get is this whole portrayal that saying you will shut off immigration from countries we are at war with (and if you determine that this is a religious war then it stands to reason that comes into play) is racist and bigoted.

What I don't get is saying that you are going to round up people who are here illegally, focusing on those who are not only here illegally but also committing crimes, and send them back to their country of origin is racist and bigoted. What is the point of having laws if you don't enforce them? When Teddy Roosevelt was police commissioner of NYC he enforced laws against drinking on Sunday. This was very unpopular. But his point was that the way to deal with an unpopular law is to change it. By keeping the law and not enforcing it you were promoting corruption.

As for the misogyny Trump is guilty.

But then JZ and Beyonce are on the stage with Clinton and you realize how can that be a reason to pick her? She surrounds herself with rapists (Bill), perverts (Weiner) and rap stars.

People confuse the issue, there was no backlash or whitelash for Trump, he received fewer votes than Romney. Half the people who voted for Trump said that it was primarily a vote against Clinton rather than for Trump. The reason Clinton lost the Electoral College vote was due to 500,000 people. she received 8 million votes less than Obama and think of the advantages she had. She should have motivated women to come out and vote, a much bigger group than blacks. She was backed by Obama, Beyonce and Lebron James, you would think that would also help pick up the black vote. She spent twice as much as Trump on her campaign and by all accounts had a very well run organization, and yet couldn't get people to come out and vote for her.

The reason you have a primary is so that you get the candidate that the party supports, they short circuited that process and paid for it.

Also, this whole fear mongering about Trump's temperament. The unspoken he is like Hitler. If we had had wikileaks at the time of Hitler he never would have become the maniacal killer. There were numerous people in very high places who tried to put a stop to him, with Wikileaks the whole world would have known about many of his issues years earlier. That would have derailed him.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

As for the misogyny -- Trump is guilty.

People confuse the issue.

Also, this whole fear mongering about.

This is how the liberals and the liberal media distort perceptions.

Trump touches a woman inappropriately, which no one condones, and he gets branded a misongynist by the media.

Bill Clinton rapes and molests numerous women, while Hillary maligns all these victims' reputations, YET noone in the media brands them as misogynists.

This is what liberals just can't seem to understand.

Some, however, see through it. See through the endless bias.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

This is how the liberals and the liberal media distort perceptions.

Trump touches a woman inappropriately, which no one condones, and he gets branded a misongynist by the media.

Bill Clinton rapes and molests numerous women, while Hillary maligns all these victims' reputations, YET noone in the media brands them as misogynists.

This is what liberals just can't seem to understand.

Some, however, see through it. See through the endless bias.

I think 8 million fewer votes shows that many came to that conclusion.

However, I think this is just the first act. It is very clear that there are quite a few who are sharpening their knives for Trump. It is doubtful that a serious attempt to find something would yield nothing so I expect that this soap opera will continue. Whether it is Trump U, allegations of rape, ties to Russia, IRS foibles, ethics violations, whatever. We are in for a bumpy ride, especially with the tool like Wikileaks.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I think 8 million fewer votes shows that many came to that conclusion.

Apparently that basket of deplorables showed up to vote. I saw a few at my precinct.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

This is how the liberals and the liberal media distort perceptions.

Trump touches a woman inappropriately, which no one condones, and he gets branded a misongynist by the media.

Bill Clinton rapes and molests numerous women, while Hillary maligns all these victims' reputations, YET noone in the media brands them as misogynists.

This is what liberals just can't seem to understand.

Some, however, see through it. See through the endless bias.

So let's deport or jail all those nasty liberals.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

So let's deport or jail all those nasty liberals.

Start with those who promised to leave if Trump was elected.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

But even in the midst of the worst example of confirmation bias I saw several (2) pundits who do poll analysis who predicted a Trump victory based on their algorithms. Not to mention Bill Clinton who also saw this coming behind the scenes.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/2b1c053...ssor’-who.html