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Old 05-10-2017, 01:25 PM   #1
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During the former Acting Attorney General’s testimony, we learned that she warned the White House that its former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn had lied about his Russia contacts and was vulnerable to blackmail.

We also learned that President Obama warned Trump directly against hiring Flynn.

But despite these warnings, Flynn was hired and was involved in key national security decisions, even 18 days after the White House was told about his Russian dealings.

These revelations are deeply troubling and are further proof that we need a full accounting of the Trump administration’s Russia ties.

The Senate does not have full-time Senate staff assigned to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. It’s time for an independent commission to uncover the truth.

Firing FBI Director Comey was a step in the Trump Administration's strategy to cover up this grave national security matter.

With Trump’s Russian connections back in the news this week and the FBI's integrity compromised, it's clear that we need an independent commission to investigate the Trump campaign and Administration.
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Old 05-10-2017, 02:19 PM   #2
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During the former Acting Attorney General’s testimony, we learned that she warned the White House that its former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn had lied about his Russia contacts and was vulnerable to blackmail.

We also learned that President Obama warned Trump directly against hiring Flynn.

But despite these warnings, Flynn was hired and was involved in key national security decisions, even 18 days after the White House was told about his Russian dealings.

These revelations are deeply troubling and are further proof that we need a full accounting of the Trump administration’s Russia ties.

The Senate does not have full-time Senate staff assigned to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. It’s time for an independent commission to uncover the truth.

Firing FBI Director Comey was a step in the Trump Administration's strategy to cover up this grave national security matter.

With Trump’s Russian connections back in the news this week and the FBI's integrity compromised, it's clear that we need an independent commission to investigate the Trump campaign and Administration.
We heard the same cries for years regarding Benghazi.

Flynn lied to Pence, so Trump canned him. That was months ago. And you still want to investigate that. Where were you when the Republicans cried for an independent investogation?
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Old 05-10-2017, 06:07 PM   #3
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We heard the same cries for years regarding Benghazi.

Flynn lied to Pence, so Trump canned him. That was months ago. And you still want to investigate that. Where were you when the Republicans cried for an independent investogation?
There have been seven investigations of Benghazi, led mostly by Republicans in the Congress ... all ending in bupkis ...

I hope we spend as much money into investigating these Russian ties. Interference by any nation into our elections should never be allowed, and should be pursued by both parties ... even you shouldn't want it bro Ohio ... unless you don't care because your guy won.
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There have been seven investigations of Benghazi, led mostly by Republicans in the Congress ... all ending in bupkis ...

I hope we spend as much money into investigating these Russian ties. Interference by any nation into our elections should never be allowed, and should be pursued by both parties ... even you shouldn't want it bro Ohio ... unless you don't care because your guy won.
Ahem.

"the U.S. intervened in 81 foreign elections between 1946 and 2000, while the Soviet Union or Russia intervened in 36"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...l_intervention
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:30 PM   #5
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.79aaefd735ad

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politi...t-trump-comey/

Comey's firing was born of trump's tantrum. On top of threatening to out his collusion with the Rooskies, Comey had hurt President Snowflake's feelings.
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Comey's firing was born of trump's tantrum. On top of threatening to out his collusion with the Rooskies, Comey had hurt President Snowflake's feelings.
First, I see the term "snowflake" as a personal insult. Yes, it is true that Trump does not post here (as far as we know) but even so I think you are setting a dangerous precedent.

Second, I highly doubt it was a tantrum. I think he had been sweating for the last five days what to do, ever since he heard the "good news" that Comey's investigation was beginning to get traction. I think he jumped at the news of Comey's "mistake" as a "viable" excuse to fire him, and not because of the investigation, because, as he said he had been told on three separate times that he was not a target of that investigation.

For example, I was in the lab with my students this last week and two of my students violated very strict rules about lab protocol. As a result both classes had to leave the lab room as it had become unsafe.

I wrote up the incidents and as a result they will both fail lab. There was no "tantrum" instead I was very happy. I knew both students were not ready to move onto Chemistry and now I had the documented event that completely justifies that decision.
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Second, I highly doubt it was a tantrum. I think he had been sweating for the last five days what to do, ever since he heard the "good news" that Comey's investigation was beginning to get traction.
Rosenstein was overwhelmingly confirmed by the Senate on April 25. Give him a couple weeks to confer with past Directors, past AG's, and current top FBI staff, and he was quickly able to recommend with overwhelming support that Comey had to go.

Other than that, any time frame during the past 6 months or the next 6 months would be deemed suspicious and inappropriate.

Democrats have been calling for Comey's head since last summer. Give them what they want, and now they don't want it any more. Like a petulant child.

And here folks we have "Fake Tears Chucky" --
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Ahem.

"the U.S. intervened in 81 foreign elections between 1946 and 2000, while the Soviet Union or Russia intervened in 36"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...l_intervention
Are those countries happy about it? If not, do something, it is your country and your election.

I am not angry at Russia for intervening in our election, I am angry at Clinton whose use of a non secure server made it easier to hack, and I am angry at anyone who colluded with the Russians and want them caught, tried, and humiliated.
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There have been seven investigations of Benghazi, led mostly by Republicans in the Congress ... all ending in bupkis ...

I hope we spend as much money into investigating these Russian ties. Interference by any nation into our elections should never be allowed, and should be pursued by both parties ... even you shouldn't want it bro Ohio ... unless you don't care because your guy won.
What? ... my guy lost.
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What? ... my guy lost.
Oh ... I should have thought : Ohio = Kasich. I like him too. Much better than Trump. He would play by the rules and Trump has none.
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Oh ... I should have thought : Ohio = Kasich. I like him too. Much better than Trump. He would play by the rules and Trump has none.
I would have voted for him as well.
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We heard the same cries for years regarding Benghazi.
Recently learned that Benghazi was not so simple. The State Department actually had little say in how that place was guarded. It was a front for the CIA operation down the street. State was given the task of having a show of presence so that U.S. personnel could be at the annex down the street. No amount of clamoring by State was going to change the level of defense for the people there.

Not defending HC. She still has plenty to be called to account for.
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