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Old 12-03-2017, 08:52 AM   #1
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You gotta hand it to him and the Republican Congress. They just pulled off a world historic trillion plus dollar Bait and Switch on the majority of American people...and they're not done yet.
But, given Flynn, will Trump remain in office long enough to sign it?
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:35 PM   #2
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But, given Flynn, will Trump remain in office long enough to sign it?
We just learned that it is Trump's lawyer who has been writing his tweets! Well now we know the legal strategy: he is building a case for insanity.
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We just learned that it is Trump's lawyer who has been writing his tweets! Well now we know the legal strategy: he is building a case for insanity.
it hurts when I laugh.
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:50 AM   #4
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Sorry I'm late to the party, but this just in :

'Mueller poses an existential threat to the Trump presidency,' says Trump ally Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy

"Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy, a close ally of President Trump's, admitted the Russia probe could spell major trouble for the administration.
'You know, at the end of the the day, my view is that – Robert Mueller poses an existential threat to the Trump presidency,' Ruddy said Sunday on ABC's This Week."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...residency.html
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Old 12-04-2017, 04:17 PM   #5
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Here's the money quote Dowd gave to Axios: The “president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case.”

I thought if any law enforcement official was in any way involved with a case, friends of the family, possible collusion, etc, then they should recuse themselves. Being the chief law enforcement officer doesn't give you the right to fire the person who is prosecuting you, or members of your family, or your transition team.
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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Two national monuments in Utah that President Donald Trump is going to significantly reduce include ancient cliff dwellings and scenic canyons as well as areas that could be used for energy development.

During a March 2011 phone interview with "Fox and Friends," Donald Trump touted a business interaction he had with former Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi as a prime example of his business prowess: "I dealt with Qaddafi. I rented him a piece of land. He paid me more for one night than the land was worth for two years, and then I didn't let him use the land. That's what we should be doing. I don't want to use the word 'screwed', but I screwed him. That's what we should be doing."
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:47 PM   #7
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But, given Flynn, will Trump remain in office long enough to sign it?
Trump's lawyer claims that Trump cannot be guilty of obstruction of justice because he is the highest official in the criminal justice department.

I thought we crossed this bridge with the Magna Carta, everyone is subject to the law and no one is above the law.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:01 PM   #8
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How absurd is Roy allowed to get before even his supporters see that something just ain't right about him, besides his alleged pedophilia?

Accused pedophile Roy Moore in anti-Semitism storm as he says Jewish billionaire George Soros will go to HELL - then suggests all non-Christians will too

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...os-attack.html
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Michael Flynn — fired by the Trump Administration for lying — has turned state’s evidence against the White House and agreed to cooperate with rogue prosecutor Robert Mueller and his endless game of pin the tail on the Trump. How any of it amounts to “colluding” with Russia to rig last year’s election is beyond the imagination of any sane, rational person. But here in the swamp, there is very little rational sanity.


As always with these political witch hunts, Flynn is not pleading guilty to any crime that is a result of the Trump campaign or the Trump administration or anything involving President Trump. Flynn is pleading guilty to a crime that is the result of nothing other than Mr. Mueller’s investigation. Lying to the FBI. The only reason Flynn was talking to the FBI in the first place, is this bogus investigation into Democratic hallucinations about the Trump campaign “colluding” with Russia.


So, finally, Mr. Mueller has his witness. He finally has a witness willing to say what Mr. Mueller has been yearning for from the very launch of his quest, “worthy” of Inspector Javert. And, of course, Flynn is willing to say anything Mr. Mueller wants him to say. Mr. Mueller threatened to jail him. Far, far worse, the rogue prosecutor threatened to jail the man’s son and leave his family destitute. Flynn’s wife would die a widow pauper if Flynn did not say what Mr. Mueller wanted him to say. In other words, Mr. Mueller has bribed and blackmailed Flynn into saying precisely what Mr. Mueller wants him to say.

First, Flynn says he was instructed to “collude” with the Russians after Nov. 8, 2016. But you can’t rig an election AFTER the election. Unless Mr. Trump has a time machine — and I suspect he would have bragged to us about that if he did — you simply cannot rig an election after it happened.
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President Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Now you may begin to understand why Bible-believing evangelicals support Trump.
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President Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Now you may begin to understand why Bible-believing evangelicals support Trump.
This is so wrong. But those following their Bible mythologies, both Jews and Christians, don't think so.

They think it's the fulfillment of Bible prophecies. While it's nothing but self fulfilling prophecies.

But Trump needs badly to be great, and that's more important than provoking wars, and increasing the potential for terrorism here at home.

Make Trump great again ... at any cost.
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This is so wrong. But those following their Bible mythologies, both Jews and Christians, don't think so.

They think it's the fulfillment of Bible prophecies. While it's nothing but self fulfilling prophecies.

But Trump needs badly to be great, and that's more important than provoking wars, and increasing the potential for terrorism here at home.

Make Trump great again ... at any cost.
If Trump was so obsessed woth being great, as you suppose, then Trump would NEVER have recognised Jerusalem.

But since you see the Bible as mythology, it is impossible for you to understand.

How in the world can ancient prophecies be self-fulfilling? Either they are fulfilled by the inspiration and sovereignty of God, or they could never be fulfilled.
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This is so wrong. But those following their Bible mythologies, both Jews and Christians, don't think so.

They think it's the fulfillment of Bible prophecies. While it's nothing but self fulfilling prophecies.

But Trump needs badly to be great, and that's more important than provoking wars, and increasing the potential for terrorism here at home.

Make Trump great again ... at any cost.
Why is it wrong to recognize the capital of Israel as the capital of Israel?

What an ugly post full of assumptions. You assume that Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital because he is following "Bible mythologies" though there is nothing at all in his campaign or behavior that would suggest he is such a person.

You suggest that this action is irresponsible and worse, is intended to provoke a war and increase terrorism at home for some political advantage to Trump.

Can anyone's mind be any more poisonous than this post?

For 50 years Israel has been a nation. How has the peace process gone so far? How has American policy prior to Trump worked at reducing terrorism?

As far as I can tell the only thing that has reduced terrorism, at least in Israel, is their wall.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terror-rate.html

The construction of Israel’s security fence put an immediate and dramatic end to the Palestinian campaign of suicide bombing.*By 2009, only 15 Israelis were killed by Palestinian terrorism, compared with 452 murdered in 2002, the year before construction began.* (https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...rst/678600001/)
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Michael Flynn — fired by the Trump Administration for lying — has turned state’s evidence against the White House and agreed to cooperate with rogue prosecutor Robert Mueller and his endless game of pin the tail on the Trump. How any of it amounts to “colluding” with Russia to rig last year’s election is beyond the imagination of any sane, rational person. But here in the swamp, there is very little rational sanity.


As always with these political witch hunts, Flynn is not pleading guilty to any crime that is a result of the Trump campaign or the Trump administration or anything involving President Trump. Flynn is pleading guilty to a crime that is the result of nothing other than Mr. Mueller’s investigation. Lying to the FBI. The only reason Flynn was talking to the FBI in the first place, is this bogus investigation into Democratic hallucinations about the Trump campaign “colluding” with Russia.


So, finally, Mr. Mueller has his witness. He finally has a witness willing to say what Mr. Mueller has been yearning for from the very launch of his quest, “worthy” of Inspector Javert. And, of course, Flynn is willing to say anything Mr. Mueller wants him to say. Mr. Mueller threatened to jail him. Far, far worse, the rogue prosecutor threatened to jail the man’s son and leave his family destitute. Flynn’s wife would die a widow pauper if Flynn did not say what Mr. Mueller wanted him to say. In other words, Mr. Mueller has bribed and blackmailed Flynn into saying precisely what Mr. Mueller wants him to say.

First, Flynn says he was instructed to “collude” with the Russians after Nov. 8, 2016. But you can’t rig an election AFTER the election. Unless Mr. Trump has a time machine — and I suspect he would have bragged to us about that if he did — you simply cannot rig an election after it happened.
I agree that there is a lot of hypocrisy here. SCOTUS determined that corporations could pay as much as they want to influence an election. Is there anything in this ruling that discerns between corporations incorporated in the US with foreign companies?
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I agree that there is a lot of hypocrisy here. SCOTUS determined that corporations could pay as much as they want to influence an election. Is there anything in this ruling that discerns between corporations incorporated in the US with foreign companies?
Sorry ... ZNP ... but this is way beyond mere hypocrisy.

This is an assault on our Republic and the democratic process that elected our President by agenda-driven career FBI agents. Where is the rule of law?
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How absurd is Roy allowed to get before even his supporters see that something just ain't right about him, besides his alleged pedophilia?

Accused pedophile Roy Moore in anti-Semitism storm as he says Jewish billionaire George Soros will go to HELL - then suggests all non-Christians will too

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...os-attack.html
If Judge Moore can be accused of anti-semitism for calling out Soros, then you are a racist, anti-white, anti-German, gerontophobic, anti-Christian, and anti-Presbyterian for calling out Trump.
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If Judge Moore can be accused of anti-semitism for calling out Soros, then you are a racist, anti-white, anti-German, gerontophobic, anti-Christian, and anti-Presbyterian for calling out Trump.
So Democrats, like Conyers and Franken, have to resign over accusations, but Moore can be put into the Senate? If he wins, will he have to resign too? Or do pubbies, like Moore and Trump, get a free pass. Just not demmies.
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So Democrats, like Conyers and Franken, have to resign over accusations, but Moore can be put into the Senate? If he wins, will he have to resign too? Or do pubbies, like Moore and Trump, get a free pass. Just not demmies.
The people of Alabama will decide their senator next Tuesday.

If the Senate Ethics Committee brings charges, then Moore will get to face his accusers, and not be convicted in the court of public opinion.

If Moore is elected and then convicted, he will have to step down, and the Governor of Alabama can appoint a new senator.

Don't you accept the Democratic process? The rule of law? The presumption of innocence? Or do you prefer hit squads?
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