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[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

We endured several government shut-downs when Newt Gingrich was the #1 bomb thrower in D.C. in the 90s. Now the Bomb Thrower and Chief is in the White House.

The Golden Wrecking Ball must be pissed off cuz it messed up his appointment to play golf at Mar-A-Lago this weekend. So sad.

Trumpty Dumpty is in a Twitter war against his own Chief of Staff John Kelly. Don't fret America; it's all a part of the grand strategy outlined in masterpiece The Art of the Deal [$12.99 at Amazon] ghost written by Tony Schwartz.

When Sir Sissypants "feels aggrieved, he reacts impulsively and defensively, constructing a self-justifying story that doesn't depend on facts and always directs the blame to others." Hence, the Dems are to blame for the shut-down and messing up his golf date.

I can't tell if this is good news or not. Question -- now that the government has shut down does this mean we don't have to pay taxes for the period of time they are shut down?

2nd question -- I know this is the democrats fault (I read DT's tweet), but why? Don't the Republicans control the house, senate and Whitehouse?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I can't tell if this is good news or not. Question -- now that the government has shut down does this mean we don't have to pay taxes for the period of time they are shut down?

2nd question -- I know this is the democrats fault (I read DT's tweet), but why? Don't the Republicans control the house, senate and Whitehouse?

Budget CR needs 60 votes.

The Chucky Shumer Shutdown!

One man can shut down the country!

So ZNP, you really blame Trump for defending American citizens, and support Schumer for shutting down the Government for illegal aliens who will one day vote Democrat.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Budget CR needs 60 votes.

The Chucky Shumer Shutdown!

One man can shut down the country!

So ZNP, you really blame Trump for defending American citizens, and support Schumer for shutting down the Government for illegal aliens who will one day vote Democrat.

I already said I read DT's tweet and it is clear from Trump that this is 100% the Democrats fault.

What I don't understand is that Trump was elected because he is a "great negotiator", "everyone wants Trump to do negotiations", and he is really not beholden to any policy.

I also doubt Schumer could control 100% of the democrats. Surely a wiley negotiator like DT could have figured out how to peel a few of them off.

Also, what is the procedure for an illegal alien to vote?

[awareness]

Here's a real good one fer ya, from the Trump Campaign :

"DEMOCRATS “COMPLICIT” IN ALL MURDERS BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS"
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/d...gal-immigrants

[awareness]

But then. In 2013, on Fox and Friends, Trump said the responsibility for a gov'ment shutdown lies with the president. See video :

"REVEALED: Trump said a shutdown is ALWAYS the president's fault in 2013 interview as he now tries to pin the blame on 'obstructionist' Democrats."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nts-fault.html

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

But then. In 2013, on Fox and Friends, Trump said the responsibility for a gov'ment shutdown lies with the president. See video :

"REVEALED: Trump said a shutdown is ALWAYS the president's fault in 2013 interview as he now tries to pin the blame on 'obstructionist' Democrats."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nts-fault.html

I guess this is the exception that proves the rule.*

*Rule -- Trump will always claim he is right and blame everyone and anyone else for everything. The corollary is also true -- Trump will always take credit for anything that goes well regardless of how absurd that is.

[awareness]

Let's have a little pro-Trump :

"Roberts County: A year in the most pro-Trump town in America."

"“Donald Trump showed a great strength,” Porter said in June. “A great powerful person for the American people first. First in immigration, first in jobs, first in everything. And I realized that we needed a president who believed America was great. Greater than all other countries.”"

"One person who Porter said didn’t fit that description was Hillary Clinton. Her unpopularity came up repeatedly in conversations with Roberts County voters over the course of the year, and the Porters made sure their distaste for Clinton was passed down in their household to their miniature Australian shepherd named Buddy, whom they taught to bark like mad whenever he heard the name “Hillary.”"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rober...ry?id=52364233

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I already said I read DT's tweet and it is clear from Trump that this is 100% the Democrats fault.

What I don't understand is that Trump was elected because he is a "great negotiator", "everyone wants Trump to do negotiations", and he is really not beholden to any policy.

I also doubt Schumer could control 100% of the democrats. Surely a wiley negotiator like DT could have figured out how to peel a few of them off.

Also, what is the procedure for an illegal alien to vote?

Shutdown Schumer does NOT need to control EVERY Democrat, just enough to prevent 60 Senators from voting for the Budget.

Obviously you place future Illegal Aliena not yet even in our country above the safety of our own citizens -- pretty pathetic -- but you can sit back and mock Trump because you still get paid.

Our daughter and husband do NOT get paid.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Shutdown Schumer does NOT need to control EVERY Democrat, just enough to prevent 60 Senators from voting for the Budget.

Obviously you place future Illegal Aliena not yet even in our country above the safety of our own citizens -- pretty pathetic -- but you can sit back and mock Trump because you still get paid.

Our daughter and husband do NOT get paid.

How did I mock him? He campaigned on the claim that "he is a great negotiator". Surely some people voted for him based on that claim. It was a very close election so anything that made a difference in a few key states is how he got elected. Republicans control the Whitehouse, Senate and House. From what I understand the shutdown was also due to 4 republicans.

My point is simple, Schumer does not control every single Democrat. They needed 41 votes to get the shutdown, Schumer is just one vote.

I support listening to those who voted for Trump, I also support listening to those who chose a shutdown.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I also support listening to those who chose a shutdown.

And you see that it's worthwhile to shutdown the government over illegal aliens who are not yet here?

Remember, Trump's deal was to allow a path to amnesty for the Daca (and possibly all Dreamers.) But he said he must have a wall and an end to future chain and lottery immigration.

Schumer, Flake, and company would not accept that, and demanded that we all have a future without borders, enforced by sanctuary cities and states.

Trump said he would take the "heat" for that concession with his supporters, considering it a big step forward in negotiation.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

And you see that it's worthwhile to shutdown the government over illegal aliens who are not yet here?

Remember, Trump's deal was to allow a path to amnesty for the Daca (and possibly all dreamers.) But he said he must have a wall and an end to future chain immigrations. Schumer and company would not accept that, and demand we all have a future without borders, enforced by sanctuary cities and states.

I do not know why 41 people voted to shut it down. I would be interested in hearing from them, but not from those blaming others and ascribing every evil intention imaginable.

As far as I am concerned I have been so repulsed by the political discourse that I ignore it. As you said I am still working, which is my focus at the moment.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Budget CR needs 60 votes.

The Chucky Shumer Shutdown!

One man can shut down the country!

Only if 40 others go along with him. That means that 41 people can shut down the country.

And yes, Chucky can be hiding within those 41. But he cannot do it single-handedly.

[OBW]

Had to comment on the Fake News Awards.

When it was announced that DT was going to do them, one of the late night hosts determined that it should be the funniest event ever since DT can't stand that anyone but him gets credit for anything. Therefore it would all go to him.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by OBW

Only if 40 others go along with him. That means that 41 people can shut down the country.

And yes, Chucky can be hiding within those 41. But he cannot do it single-handedly.

But one man can shutdown the gov'ment. All he has to do is reject any bill, or offer of one.

That man is a dodger and a weaver ... and blames Obama for the 2013 shutdown, but the buck doesn't stop at his desk ... it's always someone else's fault.

[zeek]

On Saturday morning, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), one of five Senate Democrats who voted for a stopgap spending bill (five Republicans voted against it), proposed paying the troops during the shut-down, as Congress did in 2013; Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blocked the measure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sQ0UySKYKM

[zeek]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/don...ump-shut-hell/

‘Don’t ever preach to me again!’: Ex-GOP chair tells evangelicals who still support Trump to ‘shut the hell up!’

[Ohio]

It's got to be those darn evangelicals fault!

Let me define today's progessives: those who believe every evil report about Trump, and believe Trump is the source of every problem in the world. They hated Bush who was a moral man, but used to smoke and drink. They hate Trump who is not moral, but never drank, smoked, or used drugs.

Zeek, we're not looking for the next St. Theresa for Prez.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

But one man can shutdown the gov'ment. All he has to do is reject any bill, or offer of one.

That man is a dodger and a weaver ... and blames Obama for the 2013 shutdown, but the buck doesn't stop at his desk ... it's always someone else's fault.

NY Senator Chuck Schumer was so happy when the ANTIFA stormed Trump Tower in Manhatten.

Well, what goes around comes around, and now they are storming his own house.

Oh the irony Chucky!

[awareness]

Tony Perkins: Trump Gets ‘a Mulligan’ on Life, Stormy Daniels
The Family Research Council head says that evangelical conservatives are willing to overlook Trump’s past behavior so long as he delivers for them on policy.

Trump gets a little stormy with Stormy ... Christians are fine with it.

But don't preach to me about anything ever again. No wonder millennials are rejecting Christianity and the churches ... they see the phoniness. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

[Ohio]

For those of you still in denial about the fabricated "Russian collusion" and other stories promoted by liberal news outlets, you really need some updating. Your "news" is over a year old. The following blurb was extracted from an informed piece. It, of course, will be initially dismissed by you and MSM as a "vast right wing conspiracy," but I think this story will govern all news this year. As usual, Fox News is way ahead of the other outlet.

What we are seeing today at the highest levels of our government should frighten all Americans.

As I laid out in detail in a recent interview for Judicial Watch, discussing the role of Fusion GPS, its interactions with the FBI, and Fusion founder Glenn Simpson's testimony before a Senate committee, the evidence is rapidly emerging that senior officials in our government, most likely up to and including then-president of the United States Barack Obama, worked in concert to illicitly, and possibly criminally, derail the candidacy of the opposition party's presidential candidate using fabricated information (or, as former FBI director James Comey described it, "salacious and unverified") obtained by a private investigations firm from an enemy of the United States: Russia.

Even worse, once that effort to derail that candidacy failed and that candidate, Donald Trump, was elected, those same individuals used the same manufactured evidence as the basis to launch an investigation, employing the vast authority and technical resources of the United States government, whose ultimate goal, I believe, is to impeach and remove that duly elected president.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is a coup d'état. Merriam-Webster defines a coup d'état as a "a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics."

While the Hillary-FBI-DOJ-Fusion GPS cabal was not a violent coup, to be sure, it was certainly a decisive exercise of force in politics when it used, as has been reported, a fraud on the court to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on members of the opposing party's presidential campaign. In fact, it is far more insidious than the sort of coups we typically see in Africa and Latin America. It required the subversion and corruption of numerous governmental agencies, not just the FBI – to effect: the Department of Justice and the National Security Agency to be sure, and possibly the Central Intelligence Agency, the State Department, and other agencies as well.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Tony Perkins: Trump Gets ‘a Mulligan’ on Life, Stormy Daniels
The Family Research Council head says that evangelical conservatives are willing to overlook Trump’s past behavior so long as he delivers for them on policy.

Trump gets a little stormy with Stormy ... Christians are fine with it.

But don't preach to me about anything ever again. No wonder millennials are rejecting Christianity and the churches ... they see the phoniness. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

Who said I was fine with it?

How does the hypocrisy of some idiot besmirch the reputation of hundreds of millions of Christians over the last two millennia?

No wonder people are not listening to this vapid air head analysis.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Tony Perkins: Trump Gets ‘a Mulligan’ on Life, Stormy Daniels. The Family Research Council head says that evangelical conservatives are willing to overlook Trump’s past behavior so long as he delivers for them on policy.

Trump gets a little stormy with Stormy ... Christians are fine with it.

But don't preach to me about anything ever again. No wonder millennials are rejecting Christianity and the churches ... they see the phoniness. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

And Millennials are now embracing the Clinton dynasty! Defenders of all women!

Or perhaps Bernie and his wife, who made a few bucks and destroyed that college in Vermont. But hey Bernie fell in line and they got their new beach house on Lake Champagne.

And who has been preaching to you?

And when did Trump become America's church pastor?

And you assume that all Christians are "fine" with Trump's personal life?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

storming his own house.
Oh the irony Chucky!

Storming? ... didn't that happen with Trump?

Speaking of irony. Stormy said Trump made her spank him with a Forbes magazine ... the one with him, Don Jr. and Ivanka on the cover ; oooh ... sooo ... Stormy ... and kinky.

But Christian's love it. They obviously believe Jesus was wrong about mammon ... but they like the 'he without sin cast the first stone' pericope. They are sinners like Trump ... leaving the impression that even Jesus was a sinner, like them and Trump.

Perchance admitting that, they have all along just been kidding about family values ... cheating right after your wife gives birth is the new Christian way ...

Cuz, must be, in a lost gospel, recently found, Jesus says, "If your wife is unable to satisfy you, seek a porn star." Adding,
"Seek and ye shall find."

[ZNPaaneah]

Electricity from renewable sources will soon be cheaper than power from most fossil fuels, according to the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA). In its new report, Renewable Power Generation Costs in 2017, the agency revealed that technology improvements, government take-up and proactive project development has pushed the costs associated with renewable energy to a new low, and that by 2020 renewable power will largely undercut fossil fuel.

Importing fossil fuel is the fundamental cause of our trade deficit and our national debt. Freeing us and many other countries from this cartel has tremendous economic, political, and environmental advantages.

One wonders how disruptive this will be to the existing power structure, i.e. petrodollars?