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Old 12-04-2019, 02:30 AM   #11
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Default Re: Wake-up Letter to Minoru

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Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
All too often, I saw people in the LC who were amid a constant cycle of meeting and then not meeting. I saw church kids leave, only to get caught back in, pressured to attend the FTTA, etc. What drives people back? Is it because they don't know anything else? Probably so.
Young adults leave because the blessed life doesn't materialize, instead it's more demands for commitment. Eventually, they either come back because they've been deeply programmed to believe there's no alternative, or they give up on Christian hope altogether. In both cases they're shaped by the narrative from Lee and the Blendeds.

But the God of Jesus in the NT is different from the one taught by LSM. Jo Casteel's open letter agrees: when they read the Bible without LSM interpretation they realized that the God presented in scriptural text was fundamentally different from that presented by LSM.

In the Psalms, a pattern of NT citations emerged in front of me, and I started seeing that the Jesus presented in the NT was seen as the fulfillment of the promised [OT] Messiah, the Righteous One sent to rescue God's chosen people, to be the Saviour of the world and a light to the Gentiles, and likewise the God who raised Jesus from the dead, whom Jesus called "Our Father", seemed fundamentally apart from the "Processed Triune God" in "God's Economy".

If you look at Psalm 34, for example, it continually references the righteous v/v the wicked, their paths and their end. RecV footnotes dismiss this, saying there is none righteous, we're all depraved and justification is by faith alone. David, the author of this psalm, lied to Abimelech and pretended to be insane, said Lee, so David wasn't righteous. Case closed.

But the NT citation of Psalm 34 shows Jesus as the Righteous Man: "The righteous person may have many troubles, but the Lord delivers him from them all; he protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken" (vv19, 20; cf John 19).

A consistent and coherent pattern of textual referent emerged that I'd not seen when immersed in the LSM teachings. So I began to seek after Jesus there in the text, on the terms the text allowed. "Seek, and ye shall find", and "My sheep will hear my voice."

Here's a post from an "ex-Church Kid" who grew up in the LC programme, then FTTA, who's now functionally agnostic/atheist. Scroll down the Introductions section & you'll see quite a few in this vein.

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I was required to attend every Sunday, as well summer school of truths, conferences, and even semi-annuals when I was older. I lived in a sisters house a few years in college and attended FTT-Anaheim for two years. I would say that I was marginally in the CL until the FTT. It was there that most of the issues that I had came to the forefront and I, from that point, couldn't ignore it anymore and made my eventual (but quiet) exit. To me it was just another religion and, having been taught my whole life religion was bad... well, there you have it.
Minoru's conceit is that the ministry alone explains the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of Jesus and Paul and James and John. But if you read the Bible, it isn't so. I used Psalms as an example, but others might use Numbers, or Isaiah... that if you subject LSM to the same scrutiny as everyone else got. you'll start to see the issues with their output, which is why critical thinking is forbidden with the group. Any critical examination of LSM doctrine is labeled as being "negative" or "poisoned" against leadership. So the young ones who left either think, "I couldn't make it" and they're doomed to outer darkness, or they can't stand the pressure and condemnation and just reject God in toto.
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