Church Ground Becomes the Lining Up with a Man and a Ministry

OBW · 05-26-2015, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Igzy

As someone who has contributed a lot of my time to this board, as a poster, a moderator, a helper in defining mission, and a technical designer, I do not feel such a belief is in line with the mission of this board. In fact, it is diametrically opposed to it. The mission of this board is to set people free from the bondage of such beliefs. And so I feel it needs to be challenged. To my observation Indiana is still held by this belief. It is difficult to assess, however, exactly what he believes, because he rarely explains himself. But the evidence is he is still highly sold on the idea of one special "move" isolated to a select group of people. My feeling is if anyone even implicitly pushes such belief on this board, then they need to step up and defend it, and not just keep doing it in a subtle way.

I can agree with what you have said here, at least generally.

But my main complaint has been that for all the posting, directly or indirectly, he takes few, if any, positions on a lot of it, but presumes that it will "speak for itseelf." The problem I constantly have is finding the line between what is quotes and what is his. And between what he agrees with and what he does not agree with.

And when he posts something that is purely a quote from Lee's ministry without comment, I am unable to determine whether it is for the purpose of showing:

How the practice and the ministry do not align
How the rhetoric is wonderful and worthy of following
How the rhetoric is fallen and corrupt
And so on.

It is simply missing. He consistently presumes that we will understand where he is coming from and what he wants to say. It took me months to figure out his angle on things several years ago when he started posting on the other forum. That whole thread on the teachings of Lee that he believed to be the truth was an eye-opener.

I believe that certain aspects of his desires and expectations has changed. But underneath he seems to think that there is something about the LCM as he knew it before the storms of the 80s that he thinks is simply right. And that fixing the LCM will bring back the blessing.